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Re: Should we Publish a Language Specification?

From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:21:46 +0100
Message-ID: <492920AA.3050904@gmx.de>
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
CC: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>

Ian Hickson wrote:
> Would you say the same for <script> and <style> in HTML4? How about 
> <input type="hidden"> and <button type="reset">? How about the form 
> submission model?
> 
> (I'm trying to work out where you draw the line.)

Of course drawing the line is not easy.

> Some features aren't useful for the browser platform at all, but are very 
> useful in other contexts, like <meta name="generator"> or <a rel="tag">. 

Why is a/@rel not useful for the browser platform?

> Should these features also be taken out of the language specification and 
> put into another specification? How about the outline processing model, 

The latter ones are useful features of HTML5 as a document markup 
language, so of course they should be in.

> which defines which header applies to which section? That only applies to 
> certain conformance classes (primarily data mining tools and authoring 
> tools); should it also be removed?

Good question. I didn't claim I have answers for all details.

> I believe you have also said that you believe that the IDL blocks and the 
> definitions of the element interfaces should be in a separate document. If 
> this is the case, would you propose defining the processing that an 
> <input> element should receive when its type is dynamically changed in the 
> scripting specification, or in the vocabulary specification? These 
> requirements would be mostly only applicable to scripted browsers, but 
> other user agents could also be affected (e.g. authoring tools or scripted 
> automation tools).
> 
> If you could clarify your position that would be very helpful.

I think I said before that in *my* opinion, forms submission could be a 
separate module, as it isn't needed as part of the *document* markup 
language.

So yes, different people will propose different granularity. But that 
fact doesn't imply that no granularity at all is the right answer.

BR, Julian
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