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Re: The compatibility DOCTYPE

From: Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:07:20 +0100
Message-ID: <491A1E38.3070806@malform.no>
To: Jirka Kosek <jirka@kosek.cz>
CC: HTMLWG <public-html@w3.org>

Jirka Kosek 2008-11-12 00.16:
> Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>> What does it lack? What does it hamper?
> 
> As I have already written: "it doesn't follow neither rules for proper
> public identifier nor it shows that its in HTML5 only to accommodate
> legacy content producers"

I thought it was obvious that I asked about its tecnical lacking. 
Would "doctype-html" be better (than "doctype html")?

>> But on that day, what then?  Do you think "xslt-compat" will have them
>> ask *more* questions or ask them earlier? Why not have them ask the
>> *right* question instead? "Why that longer variant, when it appears to
>> repeat what is allready said and which the much more common short
>> variant says too?"
> 
> I don't think that "xslt-compat" (or its variants) is particularly good,

E.g. it doesn't 100% fullfill your 2nd requirement above:  "shows 
that its in HTML5 only to accommodate legacy content producers".

> it is just compromise. Personally I would of course prefer proper public
> identifier like -//W3C//DTD HTML 5.0//EN. But I can see reasons
> (although I don't agree with them) why some people are against such
> identifier. It is pointless to repeat arguments again and again, it is
> waste of time. There have to be some sort of compromise and consensus. I
> don't see how putting new identifiers on table helps in forming such
> consensus.

I understand the impatience. But it seems like the f2f meeting 
looked for a better identifier. The current solution is this:

	<!USELESS THING "crappy-content-producer">

But I thinkthat  something like

	<!USELESS thing "USELESS-thing">

would be more neutral and consistent.
-- 
leif halvard silli
Received on Wednesday, 12 November 2008 00:08:02 UTC

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