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Re: [html4all] HTML5 Alternative Text, and Authoring Tools

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 21:10:43 +0100
Message-ID: <55687cf80805011310n22f3759en576b031c65d341e6@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: "John Foliot" <foliot@wats.ca>, HTML4All <list@html4all.org>, public-html@w3.org, "W3C WAI-XTECH" <wai-xtech@w3.org>

ian hickson wrote:
>There has been plenty of research and analysis. As far as hard data is
>concerned, it would indeed be nice if we could get more data.


Once again if so where is it, where is the research??

Where is the properly conducted research which  shows that making the
alt optional will lead to accessibility benefits as you [1] claim??

Show us the the proof Ian.

I have made it clear what is required from you [2], it is not
incumbent on anybody but you to back up your claims. Currently you
provide nothing more than your opinion as a basis for making the alt
optional in the spec. The HTML working group deserves more than this.


see ya!

[1] http://juicystudio.com/article/html5-alt-text-authoring-tools.php#comment2
[2] http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=63



2008/5/1 Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>:
> On Thu, 1 May 2008, Steven Faulkner wrote:
>  >
>  > ian hickson wrote:
>  > > It's not clear exactly what evidence is being requested. The reasoning for
>  > > the current text has been the subject of a number of long and detailed
>  > > e-mails to these lists already.
>  >
>  > but no "research, hard data, and analysis"
>  > refer to:
>  > http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=63
>
>  There has been plenty of research and analysis. As far as hard data is
>  concerned, it would indeed be nice if we could get more data. James
>  started work in this area:
>
>    http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AltSurvey
>
>  I have volunteered to help out (I can provide the random sample of URLs)
>  but we need more people -- can you help?
>
>  --
>
>
> Ian Hickson               U+1047E                )\._.,--....,'``.    fL
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>



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with regards

Steve Faulkner
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Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

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