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Re: Request for clarification of the case where 'the image isn't discussed by the surrounding text, but it has some relevance'

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:22:51 +0100
Message-ID: <55687cf80808250522o7aafc9u411537587fdee9f0@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: "W3C WAI-XTECH" <wai-xtech@w3.org>, "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>

> That isn't the goal here. The image is merely a decorative image that
> happens to be relevant in the context of the poem.

The image is not mere decoration if it has relevance to the poem,
therefore it should be identified and a text alternative provided.


> Please use the HTML doctype to do your tests. You will find the results,
> at least for Firefox, differ. I also recommend testing with Lynx or
> another text browser.

did that, if firefox and it displays without any indication. I have
previously tested with lynx.

It makes no difference in IE., Opera or JAWS and Window eyes.

--stevef
2008/8/25 Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Steven Faulkner wrote:
>>
>> Advice on how to mark up such images is given in WCAG 2.0:
>>
>> "Sometimes content is primarily intended to create a specific sensory
>> experience [...]
>
> That isn't the goal here. The image is merely a decorative image that
> happens to be relevant in the context of the poem.
>
>
>> >The above has two problems; first it makes the page harder to understand for uses navigating the page without images,
>>
>> lets have a look at 3 examples then, to see if your opinion is born out:
>>
>> 1. example with image displayed
>> http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/misc/shalott1.html
>> 2. example without image displayed (with alt text)
>> http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/misc/shalott2.html
>> 3. example without image displayed (without alt text)
>> http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/misc/shalott3.html
>
> Please use the HTML doctype to do your tests. You will find the results,
> at least for Firefox, differ. I also recommend testing with Lynx or
> another text browser.
>
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-- 
with regards

Steve Faulkner
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Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

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