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Re: Translation control in HTML5

From: Karl Dubost <karl@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:45:24 +0900
Cc: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, Chris Wilson <Chris.Wilson@microsoft.com>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>, Chris Wendt <Chris.Wendt@microsoft.com>
Message-Id: <0E84EE26-12F6-4EDC-BAF9-8F23B422AA6C@w3.org>
To: James Graham <jg307@cam.ac.uk>


Le 3 août 2008 à 22:25, James Graham a écrit :
> I'm curious to know if these automatic translation services have  
> tried the obvious candidate elements for non-translation already  
> suggested in this thread (<code>, <address>, <kbd>, <var>, maybe  
> <samp>, and anything with an (xml:)lang attribute not matching the  
> user-selected language to translate from)?

Indeed.

I don't know any W3C Note or W3C Specs recommending implementation  
strategies for automatic translations. I think it would be very  
useful. Maybe that should be done in coordination with  
internationalization group AND [implementers of translation][1]  
services such as

* Japanese-English by Excite Powered by Accela BizLingo [2]
   http://excite.co.jp/world/
   http://www.accelatech.com/products/BL/
* Yahoo! Babelfish  Powered by Systran
   http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
* Windows Live Translator
   http://www.windowslivetranslator.com/Default.aspx
* Google Translate
   http://www.google.com/translate_t


[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Machine_translation_applications
[2]: Another interesting case where Accela BizLingo is not mentionned  
in the reference [1]
  because being Japanese?


PS: for fun, And issues with translation, 恵比寿 (Ebisu) is the name  
of a place in Tokyo. It happened to be also a god in Japanese  
tradition. An automatic translator gave me as an answer:

	Head office address
	Tokyo Shibuya Ku the god of wealth

When the correct automatic translation would have been

	Head office address
	Tokyo, Shibuya district, Ebisu

It is not specifically a translate="no". :)




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