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Joining the WG Re: Screen-reader behaviour

From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:21:51 +0900
To: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>
Cc: "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.tx2emptewxe0ny@localhost>

On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:03:43 +0900, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>  
wrote:

> On Sep 2, 2007, at 7:27 PM, Charles McCathieNevile wrote:
>
>>
>> cc- wai-xtech. They know this stuff.
>>
>> On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:27:42 +0200, Sander Tekelenburg <st@isoc.nl>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At 10:48 -0400 UTC, on 2007-09-02, Al Gilman wrote:
>>>> To: public-html@w3.org, wai-xtech@w3.org
>>>> At 3:58 AM +0200 31 08 2007, Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
>>
>>>>> At 13:18 -0400 UTC, on 2007-08-30, Al Gilman wrote:
>>>>> Are you saying you have input from real actual flesh and blood  
>>>>> developers of
>>>>> Jaws and such?
>> ...
>>>>> Can you get them to participate in the HTML WG?
>>>>
>>>> I seriously doubt it.
>>>
>>> Why? Why would a HTML UA be unwilling to contribute to HTML5?
>>
>> Because is it expensive (very expensive to try and deal with this group  
>> - I know of several HTML UAs where nobody is interested in  
>> participating. How many of the major phone browsers are represented  
>> here?
>
> At least Opera Mini, Safari, Opera Mobile, Pocket IE, S60 Browser.

Hmm. While Opera produces Mini and Mobile, the people representing Opera  
in this group are not from those teams. (For that matter, our head of Core  
engineering withdrew as representative of this group because of the cost  
of following it).

In order to make sure stuff works for mobile we have a further layer of  
internal process. I would be surprised if I could get someone from the  
Mini team directly into this group, but the fact that Opera is a large  
enough company to have people doing standards more or less full time is  
what allows this.

> Blazer and NetFront are not represented. I don;t know what other major  
> phone browsers there are.

Infraware, Jataayu and Openwave spring to mind as developers of phone  
browsers. All 3 are W3C member companies and have worked in other groups.  
There are others around.

cheers

Chaals

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