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Re: spec review: ping attribute

From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:41:35 +0100
Message-ID: <4724837F.6050406@gmx.de>
To: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
CC: Geoffrey Sneddon <foolistbar@googlemail.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>

Henri Sivonen wrote:
>> I would want the XHR spec to clarify that it's not OK to initiate 
>> unsafe methods without the user's consent.
> 
> What kind of UI would you suggest for obtaining consent e.g. in a case 
> where a Web app contains a big editable form and JavaScript saves a 
> backup copy of the form silently to the server side from time to time to 
> prevent data loss in case the user navigates away from the page or the 
> browser crashes?

I would argue that this is a workaround for another problem (client-side 
persistence) and that we should fix that.

 > ...
>> Yes. But the same problem can (and is) already used without "ping", 
>> and even if you use "ping", you still could do it with a safe method 
>> (HEAD/Cache-Control:no-cache).
> 
> That might work and could be a tad safer. It isn't in any way 
> theoretically pure from the RFC 2616 point of view, though, to make HEAD 
> and GET have different semantics beyond the response body presence.

I wasn't suggesting that.

Best regards, Julian
Received on Sunday, 28 October 2007 12:41:52 GMT

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