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Re: Feedback on the ping="" attribute (ISSUE-1)

From: Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 01:03:39 -0500
Message-ID: <e9dffd640711052203w48081969m6b66fe3d589aa74c@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: "Julian Reschke" <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, "HTML WG List" <public-html@w3.org>

On 11/5/07, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, Mark Baker wrote:
> > You appear to be confusing two different things, Ian.  When we say that
> > an HTTP message is "safe", we're using the word to refer to the meaning
> > of the message.
>
> In that case I don't understand what we are discussing. Could you define
> the terms in more detail?

Are there any specific terms you had in mind?  I think we all
understand what "safe" means.  The problem is, IMO, that we're using
it to refer to different things.

I believe that what is relevant to the issue of the method used by the
ping feature is the meaning of the messages rather than what a server
may or may not do with those messages.  A Web browser works on behalf
of the user and so should ensure that the messages it sends reflects
the user's intent.  When a user clicks a link, their intent is for
(safe) dereferencing to occur.  If an unsafe message is sent in
response to that click, then the user agent is misrepresenting the
user.

Mark.
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Mark Baker.  Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.         http://www.markbaker.ca
Coactus; Web-inspired integration strategies  http://www.coactus.com
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