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Re: About dropping the style attribute

From: Patrick Garies <pgaries@fastmail.us>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:00:29 -0500
Message-ID: <4681FCFD.2050905@fastmail.us>
To: Jens Meiert <jens.meiert@erde3.com>, public-html@w3.org, www-style@w3.org

Jens Meiert wrote:
>>> The usual way to address that is by setting "width" and "height"  
>>> attributes which should be replaced by the "style" attribute (that  
>>> is presentational by design).
>>>       
>> In my opinion, it is extremely silly to think that height='' and  
>> width='' are bad but style='width: ...; height: ...;' is good. I'd  
>> rather have height='' and width='' on all elements that are replaced  
>> elements in the normal case.
>>     
>
> Assuming that we don't want any presentational stuff in our documents at all, but judging the "style" attribute as the only attribute we would need "in case", using "style" for image measurements /is/ better than using "width" and "height" attributes, albeit it's not "good" (nobody claimed that).
Use of the style attribute and presentational attributes are effectively 
the same thing. The reason that presentational attributes are frowned 
upon is because they are in the source, strewn about the document. This 
makes maintenance more difficult since the document is more difficult to 
read, edit, troubleshoot, etc. I don’t see how using the style attribute 
solves any of those things.

IMO, use of the width and height attributes are not presentational as 
long as they describe the intrinsic dimensions of the content. A 300×400 
image with width and height attributes specifying such causes no change 
in presentation; it just causes the browser to reserve space so that the 
document loads more smoothly.
Received on Wednesday, 27 June 2007 06:01:08 UTC

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