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Re: unifying alternate content across embedded content element types

From: Ben Boyle <benjamins.boyle@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:20:18 +1000
Message-ID: <5f37426b0707280620m7d4711dcu2cebacdf9f5710e2@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Patrick H. Lauke" <redux@splintered.co.uk>
Cc: public-html@w3.org
I'm proposing HTML 5 offers a solution already:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Jul/1096.html


On 7/28/07, Patrick H. Lauke <redux@splintered.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Lachlan Hunt wrote:
>
> > But let's consider the indexing bot for a moment.  Sites like YouTube
> > seem to provide fairly good search facilities, yet they obviously don't
> > search the video files themselves.  Rather, the video's title,
> > description and other content on the page fulfils those needs.
>
> [...]
>
> > What evidence is there to show that such authors will provide fallback
> > mechanisms, like a textual alternative for video, in HTML?
>
> What evidence is there that YouTube users will add a relevant video
> title, description and other content when uploading a file?
>
> As Robert Burns already pointed out, your argument about YouTube
> actually reinforces the point that textual/indexable alternatives may be
> necessary. So why not allow for the possibility of explicitly saying
> that a certain alternative is related directly to a video/audio/etc file?
>
> This seems to boil down to: most authors won't bother doing it, or doing
> it right, so the language shouldn't even allow for the possibility of
> doing it like that in the first place.
>
> Or, to put it into a "give us problems, not solutions" form: an author
> wants/needs to explicitly specify a structured HTML alternative for a
> multimedia file (audio/video/etc) that is unambiguously tied to the
> multimedia file's element (<audio>/<video>/etc)...what solutions are
> available to them?
>
> P
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