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Re: care with empty/template wiki topics [was: some thoughts on ...]

From: Ben 'Cerbera' Millard <cerbera@projectcerbera.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 02:35:17 +0100
Message-ID: <008501c7bf6d$eab7e810$0201a8c0@ben9xr3up2lv7v>
To: "Dan Connolly" <connolly@w3.org>, "Laura Carlson" <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, "Ian Hickson" <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: "HTMLWG" <public-html@w3.org>

On Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:00 PM, Dan Connolly wrote:
> I'm open to various organizational structures [on the wiki] at this point.

Me too...but:

The term "dropped" as first appeared in the differences doc [1] was been 
clarified and changed to "absent" [2][3][4]. Names which include status 
aren't future-proof because status names can change.

Indeed, the status of any element and attribute can change. Since the 
purpose of many wiki pages is to track issues for the Editors as they are 
raised on this mailing list, their short and specific lives are inevitable?

Focussing all pages on a user/author issue rather than a possible technical 
solution [5] could alleviate this to some extent. For example, the name 
SummaryForTABLE [6] is future-proof:

* Tables are used for presenting data. (Well, sometimes.)
* Users need to know what these table are about.
* This is an issue for some user groups.
* The name is open enough for a variety of solutions to be explored.

Perhaps "IssueTableSummary" or "SummarisingTables" would be more optimal. 
"DroppedAttributeSummary" would not. "SummaryForTABLE" gets the job done 
well enough.

On Thursday, July 05, 2007 6:00 PM, Dan Connolly wrote:
> But let's not make empty template pages. They just clutter things up.

I agree. A wiki page should only be created after there is enough content 
for it to be useful to other people, imho.

[1] 
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/html5/html4-differences/Overview.html?rev=1.25&content-type=text/html;%20charset=iso-8859-1#dropped-elements>
[2] <http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20070703#l-306>
[3] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Jul/0179.html>
[4] 
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/html5/html4-differences/Overview.html?rev=1.26&content-type=text/html;%20charset=iso-8859-1#absent-elements>
[5] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007Jun/0953.html>
[6] <http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE>

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Ben 'Cerbera' Millard
Collections of Interesting Tables
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