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Re: Why splitting HTML5 into several specs has failed to work (Was: Request for clarification on HTML 5 publication status)

From: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:13:49 -0600
To: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
Cc: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1196738029.3767.54.camel@pav>

On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 16:18 +0100, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:08:21 +0100, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>  
> wrote:
> > I note that the list of interconnected aspects above does *not* contain  
> > the actual HTML5 document format :-).
> 
> Navigation depends on <a>, <area>, <link>, etc. Parsing depends on  
> <script>. The HTML format depends on <script>, <a>, etc. Offline depends  
> on parsing and navigation. And writing HTML depends on offline. This stuff  
> has been said repeatedly on this mailing list already.

Indeed, it has:

[[
For example, the HTML parsing rules 
are deeply integrated with the handling of <script> elements, due to 
document.write(), and also are deeply integrated with the definition of 
innerHTML. Scripting, in turn, is deeply related to the concept of 
scripting contexts, which depends directly on the definition of the Window 
object and browsing contexts, which, in turn, are deeply linked with 
session history and the History object (which depends on the Location 
object) and with arbitrary browsing context navigation (which is related 
to hyperlinks and image maps) and its related algorithms (namely content 
sniffing and encoding detection, which, to complete the circle, is part of 
the HTML parsing algorithm).
]]
 -- Ian Hickson 14 Mar 2007
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2007JanMar/0096.html


p.s. It's somewhere between wasteful and rude to say that something
has been discussed on this list without giving a pointer/excerpt.
It assumes that everyone reads and remembers everything. A healthy
group is always taking on new participants, and it's not reasonable
to expect new participants to read and memorize the entire archive.
I maintain an edited history of the group to encourage new
participants to read something like log(N) of the messages...
  http://www.w3.org/html/wg/#events

The tracker is also supposed to be a good way for new
participants to get an overview of the proceedings reasonably
quickly...
  http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/open



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Dan Connolly, W3C http://www.w3.org/People/Connolly/
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