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Re: integration of WF2 into HTML5 draft -- when, if, and how?

From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 21:18:40 -0400
To: public-html@w3.org, Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>
Cc: connolly@w3.org, chris.wilson@microsoft.com, John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Message-Id: <20070805005723.M2928@hicom.net>

aloha, lachlan!

thank you very much for the pointers...

you wrote, quote:
> Web Forms 2 was moved to the W3C a year ago under the Web 
> Application Formats Working Group.  I'm fairly sure it will be 
> picked up by this working group in the future and integrated 
> into HTML5.

so, HTML5 won't address forms until some unknown date in the 
future?  and what of the work that john boyer has already done?
will that be considered when WF2 is considered?  the only way 
that maintaining a seperate document for web forms is practical
is if it plans on integrating XForms work into the HTML forms 
construct -- otherwise, why the gaping hole in the HTML5 spec?

i fail to perceive how one can proceed without the other -- is 
there also a differences between HTML4x forms and WF2 forms 
document, as there is for HTML4x and HTML5?  is the topic of 
forms to be addressed in the HTML5 design principles document, 
or will the continued disassociation between the 2 forms of forms
require a seperate design principles document at some point in 
the nebulous future?

with the advent of wikis and the proliferation of other forms-based 
interactive aspects of today's web, shouldn't forms reform be one 
of our top-level concerns?  it certainly shouldn't be addressed 
seperately and in isolation from other aspects of HTML5, unless, of
course, the working group is moving towards the modularization of 
HTML, which is, from what i've read on public-html, far from a 
desired outcome...  so why the delay in addressing web forms, or at
least integrating WF2 into the HTML5 draft, so that it can be 
discussed now, before any difference or design principle document 
is issued by the working group?

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