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Re: Introduce <term> element

From: Elliott Sprehn <esprehn@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:15:31 -0400
Message-Id: <09E4E2AC-975B-4D21-99B4-4BDFFC86827A@gmail.com>
Cc: Doug Jones <doug_b_jones@mac.com>, HTML WG Public List <public-html@w3.org>
To: Mallory Mollo <mallory@sweetpeople.org>
If helpful if we are more specific when responding instead of just a  
+1 or -1.

What feature do you think would be useful, the <term> element or the  
redefined <i> and <b> elements?

- Elliott

On Apr 10, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Mallory Mollo wrote:

>
> +1
> This feature would be useful.
>
> Doug Jones a écrit :
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> *From: *Doug Jones <doug_b_jones@mac.com  
>>> <mailto:doug_b_jones@mac.com>>
>>> *Date: *2007 April 09 19:11:09 EDT
>>> *To: *Laurens Holst <lholst@students.cs.uu.nl  
>>> <mailto:lholst@students.cs.uu.nl>>
>>> *Subject: **Re: Introduce <term> element*
>>>
>>> You might want to look at my HTML WG Glossary e-mail of  
>>> 04/07/2007 EDT. It compares the 'real world' use of bold and  
>>> italic with the WHAT WG definitions. I really don't see the need  
>>> for <term>.
>>>
>>> I created this glossary before reading the <term> thread.
>>>
>>> Doug Jones
>>> doug_b_jones@mac.com <mailto:doug_b_jones@mac.com>
>>>
>>> On 2007 Apr 04, at 03:21, Laurens Holst wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looking at HTML5’s definitions of <i> and <b>, and in  
>>>> particular, the examples, I notice the following:
>>>>
>>>>> The examples below show uses of the i  element:
>>>>>
>>>>> <p>The <i>felis silvestris catus</i> is cute.</p>
>>>>> <p>The <i>block-level elements</i> are defined above.</p>
>>>>> <p>There is a certain <i lang="fr">je ne sais quoi</i> in the  
>>>>> air.</p>
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> The following example shows a use of the b element to highlight  
>>>>> key words without marking them up as important:
>>>>>
>>>>> <p>The <b>frobonitor</b> and <b>barbinator</b> components are  
>>>>> fried.</p>
>>>>
>>>> If you look at these examples, they are really all just foreign  
>>>> or scientific or other types of terms that are accentuated  
>>>> (using either bold or italics) as a means to help the user  
>>>> understand that.
>>>>
>>>> The second example of the <i> element could be covered by the  
>>>> <dfn> element. <dfn> means ‘the defining instance of a term’.  
>>>> However, what all these examples have in common is that  
>>>> basically, they are all using a term without defining it, or  
>>>> want to highlight additional instances of the term as well. In  
>>>> other words, <dfn> is too limited to be applied to all terms,  
>>>> and thus currently <i> is used instead.
>>>>
>>>> So, in order to fill this gap, I suggest a <term> element is  
>>>> introduced, as an accompaniment for <dfn>. This will cover a lot  
>>>> of cases where <i> is used and <em> is inappropriate. I think it  
>>>> is generic enough to deserve its own element, as opposed to  
>>>> making <i> and <b> catch-all elements and defining several  
>>>> overlapping meanings for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ~Grauw
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!!
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> Laurens Holst, student, university of Utrecht, the Netherlands.
>>>> Website: www.grauw.nl <http://www.grauw.nl>. Backbase employee;  
>>>> www.backbase.com <http://www.backbase.com>.
>>>>
>>>> <lholst.vcf>
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