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Re: argument for deprecating BLOCKQUOTE in canonical HTML/XHTML

From: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:56:07 +0200
To: "Robert Brodrecht" <w3c@robertdot.org>, asbjorn@ulsberg.no
Cc: dao@design-noir.de, public-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <op.tp9yztlb64w2qv@id-c0020>

On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 22:05:22 +0200, Robert Brodrecht <w3c@robertdot.org>  
>>> Because stuff can be quoted inline and across blocks. If QUOTE is
>>> inline, you can't wrap block-level content without violating the spec.
>> Why do you have to constrain it?
> I don't think *he* is constraining it.  The spec, traditionally, is.  I
> can think of no element that is both structurally inline and structurally
> block at the same time (ignoring TD/TH, which is a weird case and not the
> same as the suggested <quote>-as-block-and-inline examples).  There is no
> precedent for it.

<ins> and <del> would be precedents. They're a pain to style though in the  
non "inline" case.

It's still not really clear why we so badly need a new element here.  
<blockquote> has been abused sure, but that goes for <table>, <img> et  
cetera as well. Creating a new element doesn't automatically make authors  
not abuse it. Besides, browsers have to retain support for <blockquote>  
and <q> indefinitely (and thus we need to figure out how they need to  
interoperably support them) and authors are already being "trained" to use  
those elements by standardistas.

Anne van Kesteren
Received on Wednesday, 4 April 2007 19:56:51 UTC

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