W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-html@w3.org > January to March 2007

RE: declarative expressons in WF2

From: T.V Raman <raman@google.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:54:17 -0700
Message-ID: <17928.23849.3040.643749@retriever.corp.google.com>
To: mikeschinkel@gmail.com
Cc: dsr@w3.org, public-html@w3.org


Note that the XForms WG originally speculated on subsetting
JavaScript, and for the reasons you mention decided to use XPath
instead.


Mike Schinkel writes:
 > 
 > Dave Raggett wrote:
 > > The use of declarative representations allows the
 > > authoring tool to recover the original context when the
 > > editor next loads the document. If the application is
 > > largely defined in JavaScript, the editor won't be able
 > > to map that back to something simpler for the non-techie
 > > author. Authoring tools can make use of proprietary
 > > solutions for recording declarative info, but this locks
 > > the author into that tool. Open standards for declarative
 > > representations avoid that lock in, creating a level
 > > playing field. A simple expression language for HTML
 > > forms would be an important part of this.
 > 
 > While I agree with that assertion...
 > 
 > > I have yet to hear any substantive technical barriers and
 > > the implementation is straightforward as I have
 > > demonstrated. I really don't understand the reluctance of
 > > most people on this list to embrace an opportunity to
 > > make HTML authoring accessible to a much wider range of
 > > people.
 > 
 > ...I'm concerned about where the arbitrary limits will be set and how the
 > design of a subset architecture might be forced to evolve. In my experience
 > everytime I see a group create a subset language it often grows to become a
 > bastardized version of the original because it wasn't originally architected
 > for extension and because needs for flexibility push the language to be more
 > than it was ever designed to be.
 > 
 > I believe the scope of this issue is large enough it should be addressed by
 > its own working group with people who have programming language design
 > experience as opposed to just markup language design experience.  In other
 > words, seperation of concerns should apply here.
 > 
 > JMTCW, anyway.
 > 
 > -- 
 > -Mike Schinkel
 > http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blogs/
 > http://www.welldesignedurls.org
 > http://atlanta-web.org - http://t.oolicio.us
 > 
 > 
 >   
 >   
 >    
 >  
 > 

-- 
Best Regards,
--raman

Title:  Research Scientist      
Email:  raman@google.com
WWW:    http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/
Google: tv+raman 
GTalk:  raman@google.com, tv.raman.tv@gmail.com
PGP:    http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc
Received on Monday, 26 March 2007 23:54:43 GMT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0+W3C-0.50 : Monday, 26 March 2007 23:54:49 GMT