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Re: [whatwg] Video proposals

From: Matthew Ratzloff <matt@builtfromsource.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:12:07 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <49351.76.104.145.55.1174875127.squirrel@webmail.builtfromsource.com>
To: public-html@w3.org, "WHAT Working Group Mailing List" <whatwg@whatwg.org>

I didn't think I was crediting <object> with that simplification, since
they were both <object> tags... :-)

The idea is that it should work the same across all browsers.  The format
(MP3) was just an example to illustrate my point.  You shouldn't have 3
different ways of specifying plug-ins, and it would be nice if extremely
common file types (when not encumbered my patents) had native players,
which the user could then override if they preferred to do so.

If, as some suggest, we need a new element (such as <audio>) in order for
every browser to start fresh and handle it in the same way, then fine.

-Matt

On Sun, March 25, 2007 4:49 pm, Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
> I don't think you can credit <object> for the simplification that
> results when you replace something that works across many browsers
> with something that doesn't.
>
> On Mar 18, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Matthew Ratzloff wrote:
>> "Slightly" more complex use case:
>> <object classid="clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B"
>>         codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab"
>>         width="200"
>>         height="16">
>>     <param name="src" value="my-audio.mp3" />
>>     <param name="autoplay" value="true" />
>>     <param name="pluginspage"
>> value="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/" />
>>     <param name="controller" value="true" />
>>     <!--[if !IE]> <-->
>>     <object data="my-audio.mp3" type="video/quicktime">
>>         <param name="pluginurl"
>> value="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/" />
>>         <param name="controller" value="true" />
>>     </object>
>>     <!--> <![endif]-->
>>     This is a description of my audio file.
>> </object>
>> vs.
>> <object src="my-audio.mp3">
>>     <param name="autoplay" value="true" />
>>     This is a description of my audio file.
>> </object>
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