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Re: Use cases

From: John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org>
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 14:51:29 -0500
To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
Cc: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, public-html-xml@w3.org
Message-ID: <20110102195129.GF2706@mercury.ccil.org>
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis scripsit:

> HTML does not need another way to express "abstract behavior".

True.  What I meant was that by using the element names to specify it,
there was no place to express the actual semantics of the content.  But I
find that the mechanism du jour for semantics is the "class" attribute.
Fair enough -- as the old SGML farts taught me, the "general identifier"
is really just another attribute value that happens not to have a name.

> CSS encourages semantic (or "abstract behavior") markup, protecting
> the uniform interface.
> CBS would discourage it by making it an extra step, damaging the
> uniform interface.

Very true.  But it would permit genuinely semantic markup (the model) to
specify both its appearance (the view) and its behavior (the controller).

> Witness all the inaccessible junk built out of divs.

Inaccessible because the behavior is specified procedurally rather than

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