Re: discretion in adding issues [was: respecification of document.write...]

HI Shawn,

On May 31, 2008, at 1:07 AM, Shawn Medero wrote:

> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Robert J Burns <rob@robburns.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> I would really like to see you and others in this WG show a little  
>> more
>> respect to your colleagues on the WG — most of whom are also  
>> volunteering
>> their valuable time.
>
> I think you read too much into my comments, Robert. I'm not
> criticizing you personally and I have sneaky suspicion that all of
> this could be resolved over a beer at our next face-to-face meeting
> (Oct 2008, France it looks like.... unless there's another impromptu
> gathering between now and then... or you live near Seattle.)

That may be, but this WG has had problems from the start and much of  
my time has been spent trying to get participants to stop talking past  
each other and come up with genuine solutions. It is very difficult  
when we have an editor that frequently talks in riddles about only  
permitting meritorious proposals into the draft and not those held by  
majority opinion while others insist that meritorious proposals should  
not be considered until we get a majority in favor of it.

As I look down the list of issues I've recently raised (and others  
that I have not yet raised), these are almost all issue that should  
have already been dealt with by the editor without the need for me to  
raise them again. It's not always easy to find this information by  
searching the email and IRC archives which is why I haven't gotten  
around to adding all of the relevant emails yet. For instance, the  
issue of meta element redirects you said you couldn't find in the  
archives. Yet I know I had a discussion with members of this WG over  
email about it  IIRC, the discussion included Gregory Roasmaita and at  
least one other hostile participant (for some perspective, I count a  
hostile participant as someone who rejects or otherwise criticizes a  
proposal for adding too much implementation complexity when the  
proposal doesn't call for addin any implementation at all[1]). I will  
take a look to find where those messages ended up when I get some  
time: simply gather together this information and drafting the wiki  
pages has taken a significant portion of my time already.

Sorry I don't live near Seattle, otherwise Id buy the first round.

Take care,
Rob

[1]: <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008May/0735.html>