- From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 13:33:33 -0400
- To: public-html-wg-announce@w3.org
HTML version: http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-wg-minutes.html
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HTML Weekly Teleconference
14 May 2015
[2]Agenda
[2]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2015AprJun/0000.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2015/05/14-html-wg-irc
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Chair
paulc
Scribe
rubys
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Open ACTION items
2. [6]Recent WG Decisions
3. [7]HTML WG charter and plan
4. [8]Other publications
5. [9]Task Force reports
6. [10]Chair and Scribe for next meeting
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 14 May 2015
<Titi_Alone> Same for mailing list?
<Titi_Alone> Can't call Zakim if not group participant?
<paulc> Titi_Alone: This IRC channel is being used at this time
for the weekly HTML WG meeting.
<paulc> Titi_Alone: Do you need help?
<Titi_Alone> paulc: Yes, I want to know if I can hear the
conference despite that I'm not a member of the group.
<paulc> Titi_Alone: You should probably attempt to join the WG
first.
<scribe> scribenick: rubys
<paulc> test
Open ACTION items
action-249?
<trackbot> action-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg
updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list
priority content for modules -- due 2015-04-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
[12] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
paulc: this one is nearly all done; the principle part that
isn't done is triage; we are going to put that on hold until
the plan is more clear
... the document is in place and is picking up the (relatively
few) WHATWG changes
action-252?
<trackbot> action-252 -- Sam Ruby to - contact polyglot
proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the spec -- due
2015-06-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/252
[13] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/252
paulc: after TPAC, the chairs have attempted to contact the
editors; one has left the wg, and the other is inactive; for
now the chairs will put this on hold
... there was a survey, which was close. We will reevaluate
when rechartering
action-253?
<trackbot> action-253 -- Robin Berjon to File bugs on
implementors re: html json form submission -- due 2015-05-23 --
OPEN
<trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
[14] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/253
paulc: due in 10 days
Recent WG Decisions
WG Decision: Return Canvas2D to Last Call
[15]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015M
ay/0018.html
[15]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0018.html
<plh> [16]http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-2dcontext-20150514/
[16] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-2dcontext-20150514/
paulc: there were substantive changes for accessibility
features and to correct some things that previously were left
out
... last call period is approximately 4 weeks
b) WG Decision: Move Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
specification under the terms of the 2014 Process Document
[17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015M
ay/0019.html
[17]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0019.html
paulc: this will enable the editors to use the new publishing
tool
WG Decision: Move Using WAI-ARIA in HTML specification under
the terms of the 2014 Process Document
[18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015M
ay/0022.html
[18]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0022.html
paulc: this is co-published, and is awaiting a decision by PF
janina: there may be confusion in titling; ARIA is HTML is
fully HTML WG (previously resolved)
<plh> [19]http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-html-aria-20150514/
[19] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-html-aria-20150514/
janina: using HTML in HTML is primarily authoring guidance:
that we want to continue to jointly manage.
<paulc> [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-aria-in-html-20140626/
Using WAI-ARIA in HTML
[20] http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/WD-aria-in-html-20140626/
janina: there were two requests from Steve, there is consensus
on heartbeat, but not yet on automated publishing
... I'll reach out to Steve
paulc: the HTML WG doesn't require permission for heartbeats, I
think we are OK here
<plh> [21]http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-html-aria-20150514/
[21] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-html-aria-20150514/
plh: I don't know where the editor's draft for Using WAI-ARIA
in HTML is
<plh> [22]http://w3c.github.io/aria-in-html/
[22] http://w3c.github.io/aria-in-html/
<paulc> Above link is Editor's draft of Using WAI-ARIA in HTML
janina: the short-name is confusing
paulc: very confusing
WG Decision: Move ARIA in HTML specification under the terms of
the 2014 Process Document
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015M
ay/0021.html
[23]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0021.html
paulc: this document had a heartbeat document today
HTML WG charter and plan
a) Update on HTML plan next steps, Philippe
[24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015M
ay/0017.html [25]http://www.w3.org/2015/Talks/0506-html/
[24]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0017.html
[25] http://www.w3.org/2015/Talks/0506-html/
paulc: charter expires June 30th; lots of discussions re:
reengaging the community
plh: there are two things happening in parallel.
<paulc> WG charter:
[26]http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-charter.html
[26] http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-charter.html
plh: there is a desire to have a CG with a wide scope to
incubate ideas, there is a draft charter
<plh>
[27]https://w3c.github.io/charter-html/incubator-cg-charter.htm
l
[27] https://w3c.github.io/charter-html/incubator-cg-charter.html
plh: the long pole is thought to be the tooling to track
contributions
... for the WG, the situation is more complicated and will take
longer. Adrian Bateman made a proposal prior to the AC;
addressing the existing overlap of HTML and WebApps
... the proposal is to reshuffle and end up with four groups
<plh> [28]https://github.com/w3c/charter-html/issues/14
[28] https://github.com/w3c/charter-html/issues/14
plh: Robin has proposed a split
... these proposals need wider review. This has been discussed
at the AB and AC.
<plh> [29]http://w3c.github.io/charter-html/html-plan.html
[29] http://w3c.github.io/charter-html/html-plan.html
plh: there is an issue with respect to the workmode. The
proposal is to be "data driven"; we need to expand on what that
means
... interop will be done by the WG.
... timeline regarding the WG is not likely to happen before
the charter expires; we will need to figure out how to extend
the group and for how long
... I haven't talked to the WebApps WG yet
Other publications
[30]https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Publications
[30] https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Publications
a) W3C DOM4 Last Call ends on May 19
[31]http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-dom-20150428/ See also:
[32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015M
ay/0024.html
[31] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-dom-20150428/
[32]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2015May/0024.html
paulc: I sent out a reminder; before the reminder there were no
comments
... in response, it appears that both Boris and Ted are
concerned
... it may mean that some parts may need to be marked at risk
plh: we need to evaluate these comments, and also figure out
why we didn't catch this earlier
... part of the problem is that new content was added since the
first CR
b) Call for Implementer Interest: Form HTTP Extensions
[33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2015Feb/000
0.html See also:
[34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014D
ec/0020.html Status: Awaiting feedback from implementers
[33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2015Feb/0000.html
[34]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Dec/0020.html
paulc: I've been trying to do direct contact
Task Force reports
janina: there will be a F2F in July for A11y; location TBD
(spain/london)
... there is an ongoing debate/discussion re ARIA role
extensions for digital publishing; looking to pull the right
people into a telecon
... transcript extension specification: John/Chaals have the
action; we need input from the Media TF to help pick from the
potential solutions
paulc: the transcript issue is related to issue 194
<paulc> Media TF April F2F minutes:
[35]http://www.w3.org/2015/04/15-html-media-minutes.html and
[36]http://www.w3.org/2015/04/16-html-media-minutes.html
[35] http://www.w3.org/2015/04/15-html-media-minutes.html
[36] http://www.w3.org/2015/04/16-html-media-minutes.html
paulc: people should look at Ted's input
<janina> 1/join #aria
<janina> I'll be late. HTML-WG call running a little while
still
paulc: we continue to make slow progress
... the next progression step for EME would be to go into CR
(per 2014 process)
... we don't have anything additional to report related to
Canvas
... the editing TF has been largely dormant
... webapps did appt a new editor
<plh> [37]http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-aria-in-html-20150514/
[37] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-aria-in-html-20150514/
Chair and Scribe for next meeting
paulc: we will leave that item open; I certainly don't think we
need to meet every week
- Sam Ruby
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