{minutes} HTML WG telecon 2014-07-17; <picture> decision; HTML5 CR CfC; TF reports; other business

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HTML Weekly Teleconference
17 Jul 2014
Agenda<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0006.html>
See also: IRC log<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-irc>
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
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paulc, paulc_
Contents

  *   Topics<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#agenda>
     *   ACTION items due by Thursday, July 17<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#item01>
     *   Decisions this week<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#item02>
     *   New Calls this week<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#item03>
     *   Testing Task Force<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#item04>
     *   Accessibility Task Force<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#item05>
     *   Media Task Force<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#item06>
     *   Any other business<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#item07>
     *   Chair and Scribe for next week<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#item08>
     *   Adjournment<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#item09>
  *   Summary of Action Items<http://www.w3.org/2014/07/17-html-wg-minutes.html#ActionSummary>

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<trackbot> Date: 17 July 2014
<paulc> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 17 July 2014
<janina__> code?
<paulc> scribenick: paulc
<rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0006.html
<scribe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JulSep/0006.html
ACTION items due by Thursday, July 17
None.
Decisions this week
WG decision to publish <picture> as a WG Note
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Jul/0011.html
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Jul/0030.html
May hold this up to get srcset WG Note before the WG
New Calls this week
CfC: Request transition of HTML5 to Candidate Recommendation
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Jul/0012.html
Some discussion about whether a TR page document should have been published instead of using a candidate draft.
Shane: Should the Acknowledgement section say anything about Microdata development especially since it is no longer in the spec.
Paul: Didn't Microdata move off the Rec track.
Sam: We previously asked that this material be removed.
... Shane: Please open a bug if you want about this.
Testing Task Force
No new news.
Accessibility Task Force
janina: using Alt in HTML5 publication has been held up since the Status section is inappropriate for a WG Note. It represented itself as an Editors draft.
... The TF facilitators are going to fix this text before the publication.
... No new CfCs are required. Just fixing the STOD.
... 2nd item was status of longdesc
<paulc_> scribenick: paulc_
Janina: janina is working on a response to the objection received on the TF CfC
... TF also discussed access keys and date pickers today
... possible work on an extension spec on access keys
Media Task Force
Paul: MSE heartbeat will be published today (not yet visible on TR page)
... EME is down to 21 bugs and summer vacations caused this week's TF meeting to be cancelled
... TF has a EME use case Wiki that came out of the april f2f that needs to be reviewed
... Media TF will meet next week to discuss new MSE bugs, MSE test cases and EME bugs
... TF will likely meet every 2 weeks over the summer
Any other business
DOM4 call for exclusions
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Jul/0006.html
HTML5 CR schedule
Looks like the CR schedule will end about the end of Aug (assuming current transition CfC passes)
If we exit HTML5 CR successfully then we would move on to PR in Sept
Paul: There are features at risk in the HTML5 spec but if there is no interop proof they can be dropped before moving to PR
AOB?
Shane: PF WG question: DOM4 is proceeding. PF WG has been asking for a feature for some time.
... given that DOM4 is in one WG and DOM Events is outside the WG, where does PF WG ask for this feature.
paulc: So when DOM4 was moved into the HTML WG it was done to solve the Normative Reference problem
... we needed a stable DOM4 to permit HTML5 to progress
... but the email list for discussion is still www-dom@w3.org (?)
<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/
paulc: so I believe regardless of its status in the WG, I suggest PF WG ask their question on www-dom@w3.org
... feel free to cross post to the DOM Events list but hopefully you will get the right answer
Glenn: are there implementations of the feature.
Shane: The feature request being able to enumerate events
<glenn> that should read "enumerate event listeners"
Shane: There are hidden implementations of the ability enumerate but not a public interface or standard
... Not currently exposed but it would be super useful for some PF WG use cases
... Original historical request for this enumeration ability occurred as early as 1999
Janina: Original use case was testing
Glenn: Perhaps being able to enumerate event listeners that have been added by injected code, e.g., add-ons and extensions is another use case
Sam: Any other AOB
Chair and Scribe for next week
Paul will Chair next week.
Shane volunteered to scribe next week.
Adjournment
We are adjourned.
Summary of Action Items
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