{minutes} HTML WG telecon 2014-03-27 - Testing, Canvas, Polyglot

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                       HTML Weekly Teleconference

27 Mar 2014

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/03/27-html-wg-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Sam, Philippe, paulc, Eliot, Daniel_Austin, [Microsoft],
          jaymunro, glenn, krisk, pladd, janina, tantek

   Regrets

   Chair
          Sam

   Scribe
          plh

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]action items
         2. [5]Decisions this week
         3. [6]Task force reports
         4. [7]Face-to-face
         5. [8]AOB
         6. [9]Next meeting
     * [10]Summary of Action Items
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action items

   Sam: none

Decisions this week

   Sam: issue-151
   ... by publishing a decision, this triggers responses
   ... those will either died down or turn into bug reports

   Glenn: I'm a bit surprised on the pushback to have clarity
   ... being told that this is not an issue isn't conducive to the
   discussion

   Sam: suggestion would be welcome

   Sam: simply saying that references to whatwg needs to be
   removed isn't enough

   Glenn: my suggestion to remove was just a suggestion. I won't
   push for it
   ... I'll try to document the risk of confusion might be
   ... but we don't have a problem with referencing whatwg,
   concern is about confusion

   <tantek> I am against removing references to WHATWG specs just
   because they're WHATWG.

Task force reports

Testing

   Kris: possible to update [11]Canvas test results for IE11?

     [11] http://www.w3.org/html/test/results/2dcontext/

   Plh: if you have the results, yes

   Plh: for html 5.0, we're still working on it, however priority
   is the HTML 5.0 tests results at the moment.

   <paulc> HTML 5.0 test results: TBD

   Plh: we're targeting to have results by end of next week

   <paulc> Canvas: There is more than one page:
   [12]http://www.w3.org/html/test/results/2dcontext/failures.html

     [12] http://www.w3.org/html/test/results/2dcontext/failures.html

   Kris: some tests are failing on all implementations for canvas

   Sam: the reports have 404

   Paul: I'll ping Mike to see if this can be fixed

   [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-test-infra/2014J
   anMar/0066.html

     [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-test-infra/2014JanMar/0066.html

   plh: some of the tests are unstable
   ... generating results on 5 different platforms, running 10
   times each
   ... generating with the firefox test runner

   <krisk> Great information

   <krisk> For example
   [14]http://w3c-test.org/html/browsers/history/the-location-inte
   rface/location-stringifier.html

     [14] http://w3c-test.org/html/browsers/history/the-location-interface/location-stringifier.html

   <krisk> Has test that everyone fails, would be great to talk
   about at the F2F

   Paul: how long will we need at the f2f?

   Plh: we'll need to bound the discussion. too many test results
   otherwise. we'll have to rely on folks to tell us what tests to
   look at and use this to inform CR at rtisk discussion

A11Y task force

   Janina: we noted Sam's email on canvas
   ... would be good for us to answer next week on implementations
   ... and the spec does appear to be settling down
   ... until we look at the new draft on Monday
   ... hopefully, we should have it right then
   ... don't have an ETA from Chrome
   ... there is a bit of divergence between WHATWG on those
   functions. so some cycles needed
   ... we're making sure to go through our remaining items around
   alt text
   ... we'll need to be backported in 5.0
   ... and properly reflected in bugs
   ... we'll do our best to close on that next week, in advance of
   the f2f
   ... we should probably work in the 5.1 around the gap with
   table/summary and options for describing tables
   ... if they get that done and not controversial, we might ask
   to port that into 5.0

   <SteveF> JS said we're making sure to go through our remaining
   items around alt text. we'll need to be backported in 5.0 and
   properly reflected in bugs

   <SteveF> all done, on my part

Media Taskf Force

   Paul: not much to report. we're meeting every 2 weeks,
   concentrating on EME. We're in stable state of 20+ bugs
   ... on MSE, we did have some initials from Google
   ... one other member is digging into the tests
   ... so we may be ready to have that discussion for MSE tests at
   the f2f

Face-to-face

   Sam: registration closes tomorrow
   ...
   [15]https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda#Potential_To
   pics

     [15] https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda#Potential_Topics

AOB

   Sam: polyglot status
   ... bug count is 0

   Eliot: hoping it's ready to be published
   ... will look at the test framework after that

   Sam: on Canvas, was covered earlier
   ... goal is to report progress by mid next week
   ... Alt guidance work
   ... trying to get that done by f2f

   Paul:
   [16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Ma
   r/0085.html
   ... only one bug that is in 5.1 that needs to be backported
   into 5.0
   ... the TF would need to discuss alt guidance future
   ... whether it needs to be dropped

     [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Mar/0085.html

   Janina: we're also tracking an other issue

Next meeting

   Kris will scribe

   Paul will chair

   [adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

   [End of minutes]

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