- From: Edward O'Connor <eoconnor@apple.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:38:57 -0700
- To: public-html-wg-announce@w3.org
The minutes for our July 21st weekly teleconference are available in HTML at:
http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-html-wg-minutes.html
and in plain text below:
[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
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HTML Weekly Teleconference
21 Jul 2011
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011JulSep/0004.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-html-wg-irc
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
hober
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]ACTION items due by Thursday, July 21
2. [6]New Issues This Week:
3. [7]Items Closed Last Week
4. [8]Items Closing This Week
5. [9]Items Closing Next Week
6. [10]New Calls this week
7. [11]New Surveys this week
8. [12]Decisions this week
9. [13]Task Force Reports
10. [14]Testing Task Force report
11. [15]Accessibility Task Force report
12. [16]Other Business
13. [17]Scribe for next meeting
14. [18]Adjournment
* [19]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 21 July 2011
<pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-07-21: Task Force
reports, Last Call change control, Decision Policy from Maciej
Stachowiak on 2011-07-20 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from July
to September 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
<rubys> ...Maciej should be here momentarily...
ACTION items due by Thursday, July 21
mjs: there are none
New Issues This Week:
mjs: there are none
Items Closed Last Week
mjs: there are none
Items Closing This Week
mjs: there are none
Items Closing Next Week
ISSUE-153?
<trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or
underspecified -- open
<trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
[20] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful
or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: Call for Counter-Proposals closes Jul 28
ISSUE-154?
<trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a
link relation -- open
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
[21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a
link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: Call for Counter-Proposals closes Jul 28
... both issues about link relations
ISSUE-166?
<trackbot> ISSUE-166 -- text/html-sandboxed does not always fail
closed -- raised
<trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/166
[22] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/166
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-166: text/html-sandboxed does not always fail
closed - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: Change Proposals due Jul 28
ISSUE-167?
<trackbot> ISSUE-167 -- Remove the crossorigin attribute and CORS
normative dependency -- raised
<trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/167
[23] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/167
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-167: Remove the crossorigin attribute and
CORS normative dependency - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
mjs: Change Proposals due Jul 28
New Calls this week
mjs: there are none
New Surveys this week
mjs: there are none
... will not start any more surveys until the end of the LC comment
period on 8/4
Decisions this week
mjs: there are none
Task Force Reports
Testing Task Force report
krisk: met last week
<krisk> Here notes
[24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Ju
l/0004.html
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Jul/0004.html
<pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda
7/12/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-07-21
(public-html-testsuite@w3.org from July 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
krisk: group agreed to use html5lib test format going forward
... new tests from mozilla
... there are authoring guidelines available
<krisk> [25]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing/Authoring
[25] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing/Authoring
krisk: microsoft has submitted some structured clone algorithm tests
... opera has also submitted tests
... TF meets on 7/26
Accessibility Task Force report
janina: not much to report
... have asked people to read through the spec to look for a11y
issues
... long call next thursday to process those reports
... media subgroup have 3 unresolved issues, waiting on PoCs
... text subgroup will make some comments on longdesc, canvas a11y,
etc.
... asking tf participants to focus on bugs
Other Business
ISSUE-134?
<trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and
command elements respectively -- open
<trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134
[26] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134
<pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-134: Provide tablist and tab states for menu
and command elements respectively - HTML Weekly Tracker (at
www.w3.org)
CP on ISSUE-134:
[27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0235.htm
l
[27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0235.html
<pimpbot> Title: Re: CfC: Close ISSUE-134 tab-states by Amicable
Resolution from Tab Atkins Jr. on 2011-07-14 (public-html@w3.org
from July 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
mjs: in the future, we will be stricter about the CfC deadline
... this is a one-time exception
... have filed bug on decision policy to clarify this going forward
... Last Call change control and non-bugzilla changes
[28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0286.htm
l
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0286.html
<pimpbot> Title: Thoughts on restricting non-bugzilla-driven spec
changes during Last Call from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-07-20
(public-html@w3.org from July 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
mjs: looking at what sort of change control should be applied, email
is quite detailed
... strongly encourage wg participants to read that email
... there are 3 key process requirements affected by spec changes
happening during LC
... 1) formal requirement to address all issues received during LC
... 2) must have documentation of all changes since the previous
step (entering last call)
... there's a Process distinction between minor and substantive
changes
... substantive changes are changes that invalidate previous review
or impl report
... minor changes only require reporting diff
... Process requires us to provide meaningful summary of substantive
changes
... substantive changes made after entering LC require issuing
another WD, can't proceed straight to CR
... we knew going into this LC that there woulud be substantive
changes in certain areas etc.
... must fulfill documentation requirement
... we will have to have an LC period in which we don't make
substantive changes
... there are a number of changes made to the spec that are from
comments not at the w3c
... also rdfa-in-html spec has changes made due to comments in the
rdfa wg, not just an issue with the html5 spec
janina: should people be commenting on the may 25th LCWD or a july
ED? (question came up in a11y tf)
mjs: up to the reviewer
... May 25th draft is frozen, so it won't change during review
... the EDs have ongoing changes, including LC comments
... issues may already have been fixed, there may be new problems
... ED probably tracks what will be in a future LC
paulc: it's always possible to get the static version by following
the dated links
... we'll always process LC comments on the LCWD
... it's also valid as an LC comment to request revert of changes
happening in the ED
mjs: Decision Policy update plans
[29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0287.htm
l
[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jul/0287.html
<pimpbot> Title: Decision Policy update plans from Maciej Stachowiak
on 2011-07-20 (public-html@w3.org from July 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
mjs: have been working on the Decision Policy 'v2' draft
... will be presenting a CfC to the WG to adopt the v2 Decision
Policy
... please review v2 draft and file bugs
... Any other business?
Scribe for next meeting
<adrianba> i can scribe next week
Adjournment
<paulc> rssagent, generate minutes
Summary of Action Items
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