- From: Kris Krueger <krisk@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 00:36:40 +0000
- To: Kris Krueger <krisk@microsoft.com>, "'public-html-testsuite@w3.org'" <public-html-testsuite@w3.org>, "Philip Taylor <pjt47@cam.ac.uk> (pjt47@cam.ac.uk)" <pjt47@cam.ac.uk>
Notes * Agreed that http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/video/video_008.htm is now correct * Ask Simon Pieter to look at the update to http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/video/video_006.htm * Philip's Canvas tests (Next 25 Tests) #1 http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/toDataURL.jpeg.quality.basic.html Need to have Philip update the tolerance before the test can be approved #2 http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/toDataURL.jpeg.quality.basic.html Is correct #3 http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/2d.missingargs.html Needs an update, maybe throw == pass, or need to wait till WebIDL progresses more on the expected exception #4 Minor - need to point images to another location, instead of http://excors.googlepages.com/yellow.png Just need to point to test2.w3.org rather than google -Kris Here is the IRC log from the meeting, trackbot issues so no fancy autogenerated notes. *** krisk [836b004c@128.30.52.43] has joined #htmlt *** krisk Ms2ger trackbot gsnedders @jgraham *** Channel created on Sun Aug 15 01:32:28 2010 <Ms2ger> trackbot-ng, start telcon <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel <trackbot> If you want to associate this channel with an existing Tracker, please say 'trackbot, associate this channel with #channel' (where #channel is the name of default channel for the group) *** Zakim [rrs-bridgg@128.30.52.169] has joined #htmlt <krisk> zakim, this is htmlt <Zakim> krisk, I see HTML_WG(HTMLT)11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be htmlt". <Ms2ger> Zakim, this will be htmlt <Zakim> ok, Ms2ger; I see HTML_WG(HTMLT)11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute <krisk> ok we'll be more patient <krisk> zakim, this is htmlt <Zakim> krisk, I see HTML_WG(HTMLT)11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be htmlt". <Ms2ger> Zakim, this will be htmlt <Zakim> ok, Ms2ger; I see HTML_WG(HTMLT)11:00AM scheduled to start now <krisk> trackbot-ng, start telcon <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel <trackbot> If you want to associate this channel with an existing Tracker, please say 'trackbot, associate this channel with #channel' (where #channel is the name of default channel for the group) <krisk> zakim, this is htmlt <Zakim> krisk, I see HTML_WG(HTMLT)11:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be htmlt". <krisk> zakim, this will be htmlt <Zakim> ok, krisk; I see HTML_WG(HTMLT)11:00AM scheduled to start now <Ms2ger> trackbot, prepare telcon <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel <trackbot> If you want to associate this channel with an existing Tracker, please say 'trackbot, associate this channel with #channel' (where #channel is the name of default channel for the group) <krisk> Not sure why trackbot and the telcon is having issues <krisk> I'll ping plh after the meeting to see if this can get resolved <Zakim> HTML_WG(HTMLT)11:00AM has now started <Zakim> +[Microsoft] <krisk> zakim, Microsoft is me <Zakim> +krisk; got it <krisk> The conf call is up - incase anyone wants to dial in <krisk> Ok lets get going - looks like it will be on IRC <krisk> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2010Sep/0015.html <krisk> #1 Check for any bugs on approved tests <krisk> we have one - http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10632 <krisk> I assume folks will agree that video_008.htm was wrong <Ms2ger> I just commented that I agree <krisk> opera? <Ms2ger> jgraham, yt? * jgraham just got back to the heyboard :) <jgraham> *keyboard <jgraham> I believe I agree that test is wrong <krisk> OK <krisk> I also updated the test @ http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/video/video_008.htm <krisk> How about this test gets approved so I can close the bugzilla bug * Ms2ger needs to look at it some more <Ms2ger> The bug can be closed without a replacement, no? <krisk> better to make progress on video tests <krisk> the update basically swapped out the result - which matches the spec changes <krisk> Mozilla was seemed to be passionate about getting this test updated <krisk> Ms2ger how much more time do you need to look at the test? <krisk> jgraham - did you have any feedback on video_008.htm? <jgraham> krisk: No, i don't think so <jgraham> I looked earlier in the week to check that I agreed it is wrong <krisk> ms2ger are you still on IRC? <krisk> I also updated video-006.htm per simon pieter's feedback <krisk> from http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2010Jun/0035.html <jgraham> OK, I just looked at video_008 again, and I am not sure I follow the logic <jgraham> Is it testing that if the video loads the media attribute must be right for the current environment? <jgraham> I can't see the normative text in the spec to back up that behaviour <jgraham> Oh, wait <krisk> so you don't think that video should play and the onplay event should not fire? <jgraham> It's in the resource selection algorithm <jgraham> No it's fine, I wasn't sure where the spec actually asserted that the media attribute had an effect <jgraham> But I see it now <krisk> ok <krisk> how about video_006.htm <krisk> or would you rather have simon re-review the update from Opera? <jgraham> I think Simon would be the right person to do it <krisk> Ok - I'll resond back to the list and add him <krisk> Moving on to Agenda item #2 <jgraham> (aside: why do these tests use document.write so much?) <jgraham> I basically agree with Philip's comments about his tests <krisk> Ok so for #1 he will change the tollerance? <jgraham> I haven't checked #3 in WebIDL yet though <jgraham> I guess we can ask him to <krisk> let's do that <krisk> movng on to #2 <krisk> jgraham did you get the correct URL? <jgraham> Yes. I agree with Philip on this one that the spec doesn't permit type conversion <jgraham> HTML5 says "For the purposes of these rules, an argument is considered to be a number if it is converted to an IDL double value by the rules for handling arguments of type any in the Web IDL specification" <jgraham> And in section 4.1.1. any, WebIDL says that string input always becomes a DOMString <krisk> OK <krisk> Moving on to #3 <krisk> So the spec removed this exception <krisk> Though I think it should throw something <krisk> at lest then the web dev will know they are calling the api wrong <jgraham> Right, I think Philip is right that WebIDL should define this <jgraham> I also suspect he is right that it currently says to throw <jgraham> Although I can't quite be certain of the derivation from the spec <krisk> Until WebIDL gets more complete I think we should just expect a throw to occur <jgraham> It is lsited as an open issue in WebIDL <jgraham> *listed <jgraham> I expect it will either not throw or end up throwing TypeError but it is hard to be sure <jgraham> Since generally UAs are rather inconsistent with the wrong number of arguments <krisk> Isn't that the whole point of the tests? <krisk> and specs? <jgraham> Well yes <jgraham> But this clearly hasn't solidified out yet <jgraham> Anyway, I am happy to approve the test if it matches what WebIDL currently says <krisk> well it doesn't <jgraham> Sure <jgraham> It needs to be changed to match WebIDL <jgraham> But as long as it does I don't think we should worry too much about the possibility of WebIDL changing <jgraham> Except in the general way that we need a better system to deal with changes <krisk> Let's have him update the test - at some later date if WebIDL changes the test can get updated. <krisk> Until then we'll not approve this test <krisk> #4 minor updates to re-point the test image <krisk> Once this is done I think that these tests can be approved <jgraham> Sure <krisk> Ok then to summerize <krisk> #1 Needs to update tollerance <krisk> #2 is correct <krisk> #3 Need an update and more agreement <krisk> #4 Just need to update the image location <jgraham> That sounds about right <krisk> That is the end of the agenda <krisk> shall we adjourn? <jgraham> Sure <krisk> Ok meeting is over - I'll send note out to the list -----Original Message----- From: public-html-testsuite-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-testsuite-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Kris Krueger Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:08 PM To: 'public-html-testsuite@w3.org'; Philip Taylor <pjt47@cam.ac.uk> (pjt47@cam.ac.uk) Subject: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 9/21/2010 Agenda #1 Check for any bugs on approved tests #2 Approval for next 25 Phillip Taylor tests Note this set of tests has a few bugs listed below, which I suspect will take a while to discuss. If you have other items you would like, please email me directly. -Thanks! IRC #HTMLT Time 16:00-17:00 UTC (11:00am-12:00pm Boston local) Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 48658 Canvas Tests with Bugs #1 http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/toDataURL.jpeg.quality.basic.html This test uses a tolerance for pass/fail. The spec doesn't guarantee that the pixel array from toDataURL will match across lossless images. #2 http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/toDataURL.jpeg.quality.basic.html '0.01' should be valid input. Canvas Spec (http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/the-canvas-element.html) "For the purposes of these rules, an argument is considered to be a number if it is converted to an IDL double value by the rules for handling arguments of type any in the Web IDL specification. [WEBIDL]". "The WebIDL for converting an argument to double (http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/WebIDL/#es-double) states that the first step is to compute ToNumber on the argument passed in, '0.01', which should be valid." #3 http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/2d.missingargs.html The assertion in the testcase is no longer exists in the HTML5 spec. The spec use to state that missing arguments should raise a NOT_SUPPORTED_ERR exception. However, the latest version does not. #4 Minor - need to point images to another location, instead of http://excors.googlepages.com/yellow.png http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.reset.html http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.drawImage.image.html http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.drawImage.canvas.html http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.pattern.create.html http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.pattern.cross.html http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.pattern.canvas.timing.html http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.pattern.canvas.fillStyle.html http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.pattern.canvas.strokeStyle.html http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.pattern.image.fillStyle.html http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/security.pattern.image.strokeStyle.html
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