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RE: Media Task Force meeting schedule, Sep 2015

From: Jerry Smith (IEP) <jdsmith@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 17:39:34 +0000
To: Bob Lund <B.Lund@CableLabs.com>, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>, "David Dorwin" <ddorwin@google.com>
CC: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "public-html-media@w3.org" <public-html-media@w3.org>
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I think that regular calls continue to be a useful tool for making progress.  I agree Mark's comment about them encouraging progress and Bob's comment about unblocking highly posted issues on GitHub.  I believe they also lend a cadence to what we expect, and that Paul sets the table for them well with detailed agendas.  He's also at times cancelled when the agenda was thin, which helps avoid waste.  I think the approach of alternating between MSE/EME has reduced the impact on most task force members as well.

I prefer we stick with these calls as a useful tool to get both MSE and EME completed.


From: Bob Lund [mailto:B.Lund@CableLabs.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 7:50 AM
To: Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>; David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com>
Cc: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>; public-html-media@w3.org
Subject: Re: Media Task Force meeting schedule, Sep 2015

From: Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com<mailto:watsonm@netflix.com>>
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:05 AM
To: David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com<mailto:ddorwin@google.com>>
Cc: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>>, "<public-html-media@w3. org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.%20org>>" <public-html-media@w3.org<mailto:public-html-media@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Media Task Force meeting schedule, Sep 2015
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Resent-Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:05 AM

David, all,

I feel that the telcos (and, better, f2f discussions when possible) are valuable for two reasons:
(1) as a forcing function to keep things moving - much as we would like to think we are all perfect in our work prioritization methods it does seem to be the case that gentle or not-to-gentle reminders on the conference calls cause things to happen faster than they otherwise would.
(2) as a higher-bandwidth forum for more complex issues - it does seem that email / GitHub exchanges on difficult topics can become extremely long and involved and this also excludes people (put another way, if you are interested enough to read though a detailed 50-post GitHub issue, you are interested enough to attend a telco and would probably find the latter a more accessible way into the issue).

In addition, the long exchanges on these few difficult topics rarely seem to converge on a consensus solution. The weekly calls have been essential in driving consensus and making forward progress, IMO.

So, I'd prefer we maintain our current process.


On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:46 PM, David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com<mailto:ddorwin@google.com>> wrote:
As I said in the last EME telecon, I will be unable to attend most - and maybe all - of the 9/1 meeting.

However, I want to use this opportunity to reconsider the standing telecons. I maintain that the EME spec continues to see real progress only through thoughtful, detailed discussions in GitHub issue comments and email. These forums:

  *   Allow participants to consider all viewpoints and make thoughtful contributions
  *   Allow wider participation from the community than the five or so of us that regularly attend the telecons

Below is a slightly updated version of my proposal<http://www.w3.org/2015/04/16-html-media-minutes.html#item12> at the April f2f to efficiently use our time and encourage broader thoughtful participation:

  *   We meet only if there are meaningful topics for the agenda. (Reviewing new issues or recapping progress captured - or that could be captured - in GitHub or email is insufficient.)
  *   We meet only if a live discussion is required (progress through other mechanisms has failed).


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>> wrote:
After this week's Media Task Force meeting we are proposing the following schedule of Media TF meetings:

1.       Tue Sep 1: EME topics

2.       Tue Sep 8: No meeting due to Labour Day holiday on Sep 7 and back to school activities

3.       Tue Sep 15: MSE topics

4.       Tue Sep 22: EME topics

5.       Tue Sep 29: MSE topics


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