Re: 整理：縱橫對齊的「行為」及優先順序 from Bobby Tung on 2013-11-15 (public-html-ig-zh@w3.org from November 2013)

From: Bobby Tung <bobbytung@wanderer.tw>
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:59:15 +0800
To: octw chen <oc.tw.mail@gmail.com>
Cc: 梁海 <lianghai@gmail.com>, John Hax <johnhax@gmail.com>, "xushengs@gmail.com" <xushengs@gmail.com>, "Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu" <kanghaol@oupeng.com>, W3C HTML5 中文興趣小組 <public-html-ig-zh@w3.org>, BelleveInvis <infinte.cdda@hotmail.com>, Jjgod Jiang <gzjjgod@gmail.com>
Message-Id: <C909C9BF-1987-4D56-819A-9BCCF181830A@wanderer.tw>
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octw chen <oc.tw.mail@gmail.com> 黺 2013/11/15 狟敁7:40 �耋ㄩ

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> [1]: http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pagination/

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> WANDERER Bobby Tung
> Sent from my iPhone 5.
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> 褽漆 <lianghai@gmail.com> 黺 2013/11/15 狟敁2:19 �耋ㄩ
> 
>> 湮翻岆眕藝宒俔竘瘍峈梓袧腔ㄛ垀眕涴跺僇忑竘瘍弇离腔恀枙祥珆翍﹝
>> 筍涴笱☆覃淕僇忑竘瘍弇离眕妏恅趼迵僇忑拸竘瘍腔恅趼勤ぅ★腔忒楊甜祥洁✽ㄛ茼蜆珩岆衄�蚚ㄛ硐岆跪模堤唳扦跪赻衄跪赻腔炾嫦ㄛ祥砉゜掛眒冪倛傖賸涴撓笱梓萸撥揤耀宒﹝
>> 垀眕祥怮疑佽＃＃扂橇腕涴跺僇忑竘瘍腔岈ロ茼蜆隱善梓萸撥揤杻俶腔奀緊婬揭燴ㄛ絞ゴ祥剒猁盓厥﹝坳［妗載諉輪梓萸撥揤﹝
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>> ☆準僇忑腔竘�婓First狟珩𩂰芼堤★涴跺［妗祥岆醴ゴ spec 腔恀枙﹝
>> 秪峈軞极懂艘茼蜆佽醴ゴ CSS Text Level 3 腔翌偶甜羶衄*翋雄*妗珋 @John Hax 枑善腔涴跺 JLREQ 鏡扴腔僇忑竘瘍揭燴杻俶﹝
>> `first` 衄妗珋涴跺欴宒腔夔薯筍肮奀衄隴珆腔萵釬蚚ㄛ垀眕⺼彆蚚 `first` 懂妗珋涴跺僇忑竘瘍腔揭燴ㄛ茼絞弝釬 hacking﹝
>> 祥茼蜆溫軝麼嘆療涴笱 hackingㄛ茼絞婓 spec 隴�硌堤 `first` 睿 `last` 岆蚚衾昹恅腔ㄛ祥猁蚚衾 CJK﹝
>> 
>> 鍚俋ㄛ勤衾 `first` 睿 `last` 腔趼睫毓峓ㄛ扂砑善昹恅珨啜頗�俴藺蟀趼睫☆-★珩唑境堤�ㄗ筍冪都硐岆唑境珨圉堤�ㄘ﹝
>> 軞眳 hanging-punctuation 涴跺扽俶腔穢韌竭嗣ㄛ蚧［昹恅源醱﹝昹恅源醱褫眕唑境腔梓萸怮嗣賸ㄛ奧ブ祥岆砉 CJK 涴晚涴欴潠等腔珨跺趼睫淕极境堤�涴笱岈ロ﹝
>> 褫夔剒猁 Adobe 坻蠅統迵 review 珨狟符俴﹝
>> 
>> --
>> LIANG Hai 褽漆
>> 
>> On 2013爛11堎15゜ Friday at 13:06, Bobby Tung wrote:
>> 
>>> 醱�6笚腔Last Callㄛ扂衄�@畭腔�燴枑偶ㄩ
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>>> 1ㄛ復庲�楛笢恅荂芃𤩸笢岆瘁妏蚚�@意源宒�燴ˋ
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>>> 楛闚岆𢬿衄腔ㄛ褽漆麼偝眭耋�闚衄𢬿衄﹝
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>>> 2ㄛ⺼彆衄ㄛ岆瘁猁崝樓虳妦𢏐ˋ
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>>> 3ㄛ⺼彆𢬿衄ㄛ憩甡桽�觳ㄛ瞰⺼ㄩ準𠰍忑腔竘�婓First狟珩𩂰芼堤﹝�www-style枑堤砩�﹝
>>> 
>>> WANDERER Bobby Tung
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5.
>>> 
>>> 褽漆 <lianghai@gmail.com> 黺 2013/11/15 狟敁12:11 �耋ㄩ
>>> 
>>>> ☆梓萸唑境★睿☆軝筵勤ぅ★ㄛ涴岆謗跺齬唳忒楊/瑞跡ㄛ褫眕郪磁妏蚚ㄛ珩褫眕黃蕾妏蚚ㄛワ跪弇燴ラ﹝
>>>> 
>>>> 籵都腔ㄛ埰勍覃淕趼擒﹜衄梓萸撥揤腔唳醱笢ㄗぅ芛帣迵瘁飲祥珨隅ㄛ褫眕岆ぅ芛ㄛ珩褫眕ぅ芛帣ㄘㄛ褫眕蚚梓萸唑境ㄗ甜ブ衄 allow-end 睿 force-end 謗笱瑞庤ㄘ﹝
>>>> ⺼彆郣善☆◎﹝★涴欴腔ロ錶ㄛ⺼彆梓萸撥揤綴夔婓俴帣溫狟奧祥斛唑境ㄛ憩謗跺梓萸飲祥唑境﹝⺼彆溫祥狟ㄛ憩蟀肮ゴ珨跺趼珨お遙俴﹝⺼彆羶衄梓萸撥揤ㄛ都都憩岆抎靡瘍婓郔綴珨跺趼腔諾潔爵ㄛ曆瘍唑境堤�﹝翋霜腔唑境源偶拸蹦⺼睡飲祥頗參抎靡瘍唑境堤�腔﹝
>>>> 都寞腔梓萸唑境硐頗婓俴藺唑境嗨瘍﹜飯瘍﹜曆瘍﹝羶衄俴忑唑境ㄛ珩羶衄跪笱嬤瘍竘瘍恀瘍眳濬腔唑境﹝
>>>> 
>>>> 奧軝筵勤ぅ﹜拸梓萸撥揤腔唳醱笢ㄛ⺼彆猁悵梤旌芛帣ㄛ寀斛剕蚚梓萸唑境﹝筍軝筵勤ぅ勤梓萸唑境湍懂賸載嗣腔泔桵ㄛ掀⺼俴藺腔☆◎﹝★頗湍懂☆枺汊旌芛帣★迵☆枺汊戲晚淕ぅ★腔橄寁﹝
>>>> 
>>>> - - -
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>>>> ☆毀綎�ㄛ离笢㻢𡡷芼堤�ㄛ衱郣善狟珨俴藺岆飯�ㄛ衄𡡷�墅﹝★
>>>> 〞〞醱勤涴虳ロ錶ㄛ恁寁 allow-end 遜岆 force-endㄛ岆齬唳氪腔扢數蕉講恀枙﹝Spec 硐猁枑鼎涴謗跺龰硉褫恁甜悵痐坳蠅俴峈淏都憩俴賸﹝
>>>> 
>>>> ☆first last峈妦繫笢恅祥蚚ˋ扂燴賤first last褫眕湛善涴跺虴彆＃＃�岆衄偝嗣�@畭蚚腔勘ㄐ★
>>>> 〞〞淏恅齬唳爵羶衄涴繫蚚腔﹝婓珨虳擁窒腔扢數笢衄涴笱忒楊ㄛ筍癶梢懂佽岆羶衄涴笱酕楊腔﹝筍昹恅都獗參竘瘍唑境堤�ㄛ垀眕 `first` 睿 `last` 婦漪賸垀衄腔饒虳竘瘍趼睫﹝筍 () 埴嬤瘍涴笱极儅誕湮腔趼睫［妗婓昹恅爵珩籵都岆祥唑境腔ㄛspec 爵參垀衄 Ps 睿 Pe 飲婦漪輛�謁鷓頗絳祡昹恅羶楊蚚 hanging-punctuation 涴跺扽俶﹝
>>>> 
>>>> ☆秪森扂砑ㄛ褫𤍈𨩆㻢𡡷麐�岆褫崝𦑩腔ㄛ祥肮�衄祥肮𢜪習﹝★
>>>> 〞〞岆腔﹝呴覂 CSS 彸芞枑鼎埣懂埣詢撰腔齬唳杻俶ㄛ涴虳齬唳杻俶婓蚳珛齬唳氪忒笢⺼彆祥埰勍赻隅砱［妗岆竭麵蚚腔﹝淩淏婓綱涴虳杻俶腔�眒冪炾嫦 InDesign 麼 TeX 腔鍾魂最僅賸﹝筍⺼彆珨羲宎憩彸芞酕饒繫葩娸腔 specㄛ憩載羶楊硌咡銡擬け盓厥賸﹝
>>>> 
>>>> ☆偌桽政婓翌偶ㄛ硐衄stops睿commas褫眕𤍈𨩆ㄐ嬤�伅腔ㄛ婦嬤�@夎腔𤩸靡�飲岆祥夔腔ㄐ★
>>>> 〞〞岆腔ㄛ涴岆 CJK 梓萸唑境腔炾嫦﹝秪峈硐衄嗨瘍﹜飯瘍﹜曆瘍準都苤ネㄛ婓郔綴珨跺趼腔跡赽爵溫覂頗絳祡戲晚諾韌ㄛ奧⺼彆唑境堤�頗�戲晚載淕ぅ﹝壺森眕俋垀衄腔梓萸飲怮湮賸ㄛ饒虳竘瘍﹜抎靡瘍﹜嬤瘍﹜恀瘍眳濬腔陲昹ㄛ扂蠅旌轎坳蠅勹輓戲晚淕ぅ腔忒楊岆俴傷梓萸撥揤﹝
>>>> 
>>>> ☆扂𢬿衄竭隴啞婓JLREQ稛夎 http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#positioning_of_opening_brackets_at_line_head 腔Fig. 3.15笢ㄛ笢嶲饒�瞰赽菴媼僇邈嶱宎竘�腔𤍈𨩆岆瘁夔絻傖ㄛ褣耋岆妏蚚firstˋ★
>>>> 〞〞饒祥岆籵都砩砱腔梓萸唑境ㄛ岆蚳藷蚚衾僇忑腔珨笱忒楊﹝⺼彆甡擂 spec 腔☆hangs and may be placed outside the line box (or in the indent) at the start or at the end of a line of text★涴珨曆ㄛ腔�褫眕蚚 `first` 懂妗珋ㄛ筍 `first` 頗絳祡準忑俴腔竘瘍珩唑境堤�ㄛ涴祥睫磁 CJK 腔炾嫦﹝
>>>> 垀眕 spec 婓涴爵剒猁�＇珨狟撿极腔俴峈﹝
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> LIANG Hai 褽漆
>>>> 
>>>> On 2013爛11堎15゜ Friday at 10:31, John Hax wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ��⺼彆嶱�賸㻢𡡷䰾窺 trim-endㄛ�t※◎﹝§褫䰾窺㻢𡡷媆�蕣硐�賸珨��褒弇﹝
>>>>> 
>>>>> 筍岆ㄛ�@夎［�郔笭猁腔�觳岆ㄛ偌桽政婓翌偶ㄛ硐衄stops睿commas褫眕𤍈𨩆ㄐ嬤�伅腔ㄛ婦嬤�@夎腔𤩸靡�飲岆祥夔腔ㄐ
>>>>> 
>>>>> 鍚俋ㄛ扂𢬿衄竭隴啞婓JLREQ稛夎 http://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#positioning_of_opening_brackets_at_line_head

>>>>> 腔Fig. 3.15笢ㄛ笢嶲饒�瞰赽菴媼僇邈嶱宎竘�腔𤍈𨩆岆瘁夔絻傖ㄛ褣耋岆妏蚚firstˋ
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2013/11/15 octw chen <oc.tw.mail@gmail.com>
>>>>>> 𤩸靡�⺼彆祥𤍈𨩆腔�ㄛ饒𩂰�傖棒俴忑趼ㄛ覜紒�紒
>>>>>> 茇梘載湮﹝�@�傖�意茇梘腔腢欅﹝
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>>>>>> 秪森扂砑ㄛ褫𤍈𨩆㻢𡡷麐�岆褫崝𦑩腔ㄛ祥肮�衄祥肮
>>>>>> 𢜪習﹝
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>>>>>> oc
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>>>>>> 2013/11/15 John Hax <johnhax@gmail.com>
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2013/11/15 褽漆 <lianghai@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> 扂跺�砑祥堤遜衄妦繫婓☆stops and commas★笢剒猁樓腔睫瘍賸﹝
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 鍚俋ㄛ`first`, `last`, `force-end`, `allow-end` 涴侐跺龰硉珨眻�扂衄萸嬪鼻﹝
>>>>>>>> 妗暱奻ㄛCJK 鍰郖硐剒猁蚚綴謗跺龰硉岆勘ˋ扂艘善ゴ謗跺龰硉岆偌 Unicode character categories 懂扢隅腔ㄛ奧 Ps 睿 Pe 涴謗跺 category 婦漪竭嗣婓 CJK 齬唳笢籵都祥茼絞唑境腔梓萸﹝
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> first last峈妦繫笢恅祥蚚ˋ扂燴賤first last褫眕湛善涴跺虴彆ㄩ
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ☆涴爵岆珨僇
>>>>>>> ﹛淏疑褫眕齬
>>>>>>> ﹛ʊ俴腔囀⺍★
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> �岆衄偝嗣�@畭蚚腔勘ㄐㄗ�賸�⻌眻褒竘�假娊賸扷曨奪ㄛ垀眕政婓嶱宎湖堤�飲�S楛闚趼徽＃＃ㄘ
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> ㄗ掀⺼ @Bobby 斕試符饒跺☆◎﹝★腔郪磁ㄛ婓祧醱齬唳奀珨啜祥頗唑境堤�腔勘ㄛ抎靡瘍怮湮輸賸ㄛ祥瞳衾戲晚弝橇虴彆淕ぅ﹝
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 艘�ゴ翌偶郔嗣硐埰偝𤍈𨩆堤�珨�趼睫ㄛ扂燴賤�@�瞰赽淏疑岆築竛�榘家汜賸��㻢𡡷猁𤍈𨩆ㄛ奧゜恅［�偌桽JLREQ岆𢬿築竛�榘ㄛ垀眕硐埰偝珨�𤍈𨩆珩掀廌磁燴﹝垀眕�@𤍈𨩆��腔呾祥呾笢恅腔陔剒Аˋ
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