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Fwd: Re: ISSUE-137 (IME-keypress): Should keypress events fire when using an IME? [DOM3 Events]

From: Kang-Hao (Kenny) Lu <kennyluck@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 06:06:21 +0800
Message-ID: <4E44525D.4050102@w3.org>
To: 中文HTML5同樂會ML <public-html-ig-zh@w3.org>
從 Web App 工作組轉來的信,大意是說輸入法在組字的時候不應該觸發鍵盤事件
(keydown、keyup 及 keypress)的一些論述,我沒有仔細消化,不過除了 2. 的
邏輯看起來很怪應該是對的。

就算沒有反對意見我們也可以直接說「支持」,大家怎麼想?

原文的庫存位於[1],在這個郵件列表上相關的討論還有:
* 用輸入法打字時 input.value 被更改的情形[2]
* Google Japan 的輸入法 API[3] — 裡面文檔關於 IME 的介紹有圖,還蠻值得看的

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JulSep/0749
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-ig-zh/2011Feb/0030
[3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-ig-zh/2011Feb/0021


Kenny



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Re: ISSUE-137 (IME-keypress): Should keypress events fire when
using an IME? [DOM3 Events]
Resent-Date: 	Tue, 09 Aug 2011 08:58:20 +0000
Resent-From: 	public-webapps@w3.org
Date: 	Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:57:22 +0900
From: 	Masayuki Nakano <masayuki@d-toybox.com>
To: 	Web Applications Working Group WG <public-webapps@w3.org>



Hello.

Currently, Firefox doesn't fire any key events (keydown, keyup and 
keypress) during IME composition.  There are some reasons:

1. Most firefox code handles key events without IME composition state 
check. (This is our internal reason, though) Therefore, if we would fire 
key events during composition, we would need to fix very many code.

2. Web application developers cannot check IME composition state 
directly.  If they needed to check it, they needed to listen 
compositionstart and compositionend events and make a bool variable. 
Therefore, if web developers handled key events without IME state check, 
IME users couldn't use some web applications.

3. Some web developers may not know well about IME behavior. Their web 
applications might break IME behavior by handling key events.

I'd like to *suggest* that key events shouldn't be fired during IME 
composition, especially for #3.  If web developers want to know the 
timing of updating composition string, they can use compositionupdate or 
textinput. I think that these events are better for the purpose since 
IME composition string can be updated by clicking on candidate window, 
i.e., it doesn't cause key events.

thanks,

On 2010/10/06 15:16, Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker wrote:
>
> ISSUE-137 (IME-keypress): Should keypress events fire when using an IME? [DOM3 Events]
>
> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/137
>
> Raised by: Doug Schepers
> On product: DOM3 Events
>
> Hallvord R. M. Steen<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2010JulSep/0176.html>:
> [[
> current spec text says about the keypress event:
>
>> This event type shall be generated after the keyboard mapping
>> but before the processing of an input method editor, normally
>> associated with the dispatching of a compositionstart, compositionupdate,
>> or compositionend event.
>
> I think this is wrong, if an IME is actively processing the input no
> keypress event should fire.
> ]]

-- 
Masayuki Nakano <masayuki@d-toybox.com>
Manager, Internationalization, Mozilla Japan.
Received on Thursday, 11 August 2011 22:06:48 UTC

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