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Re: HTML Data Guide draft

From: Stéphane Corlosquet <scorlosquet@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:47:54 -0500
Message-ID: <CAGR+nnG=ko=s++=LH2o_fzd02wmNX46uaVc6BgL9FB_wDvfzxw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: Jeni Tennison <jeni@jenitennison.com>, HTML Data Task Force WG <public-html-data-tf@w3.org>
Ivan,

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:

> <snip>

Section 2.2.1.2: the reference to the RDFa 1.1 Core initial context is
> wrong. It should say: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdfa-context/rdfa-1.1.html
>
>
That's what Jeni had put in the document at the first place, but I asked
her to change to http://www.w3.org/2011/rdfa-context/rdfa-1.1, based on the
latest RDFa core draft [1] which references that URI (search for
rdfa-context) and also your email at [2]. Did that change?

Steph.

[1] www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/drafts/2011/WD-rdfa-core-20111215/
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Dec/0040.html



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>
> Section 2.2.1.2: I would prefer not to mention @xmlns at all. In the
> HTML5 version this may not even be allowed at all...
>
> (If you agree, then in the paragraph that follows: "last three" -> "last
> two")
>
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> Section 2.2.1.3. This may be a rathole... but... 2.2.1.2 refers to IRI-s,
> whereas this section uses URL. Is this intentional? Or can I use mailto:
> ivan@w3.org as a property value in microdata (not that I would like to,
> but you take the point...)? I know that there is a separate section on some
> of the issues later, but the reader, getting to that point, might be
> confused...
>
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>
> I am a little bit worried about the complexity of the 2.2.1.3 section. I
> realize that this is the nature of the beast, because mixing vocabularies
> in microdata is simply complicated, but it really breaks the flow of the
> reading that the relevant rdfa and microformat sections are both 1-2
> paragraphs, whereas the microdata one goes on for pages. If a potential
> author reads this for the first time, it is easy to be lost.
>
> Maybe putting that part into an appendix, and keeping the main text short,
> essentially saying that this is complex in microdata, here are the main
> lines of solving that, and see the appendix for the technical details?
>
> Also, it may be worth (in the appendix) adding the similar examples for
> microformats and rdfa, too. In general, maybe some good comparative
> sections in the appendix may be very helpful for newcomers...
>
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>
> For 2.2., it may be worth mentioning that a companion document, extracting
> RDF from microdata, is also in the making, ie, such a processor would
> interpret the microdata in turtle, too (show example?). I would expect, at
> some points, processors coming up that would 'distill' both RDFa and
> microdata from a document and merge that in RDF; I am sure Gregg will do
> that, and I may do the same at some point when the microdata->RDF mapping
> gels...
>
> -----
>
> 2.2.4: "any property elements" -> "any property attribute"
>
> -----
>
> 3.1.2.2.
>
> If JSON-LD is listed (which is fine!) then I think we should also list
> Turtle. After all, both are syntaxes of the same data model...
>
> That is it for now...
>
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2011, at 18:22 , Jeni Tennison wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've pulled together much of the documentation from our wiki into a
> single document, at:
> >
> >
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/htmldata/raw-file/default/html-data-guide/index.html
> >
> > Please take the time to read this as it is the main product of this Task
> Force, and raise any comments here.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jeni
> > --
> > Jeni Tennison
> > http://www.jenitennison.com
> >
> >
>
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