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HTML adequacy

From: Lars Hansen <lars.hansen@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:42:29 +0100
To: public-html-comments@w3.org
Message-ID: <1264135349.2264.23.camel@lars-laptop>

it's nice to see an attempt at a new revision of HTML with some
easy-making tags for todays webpage designs. But is this enough?
Here a pithy paper:

It's time to do away with HTML

Most people using the Internet today access some web resource for
whatever they want to do and they conduct their interaction with web
resources by browsing webpages. Webpages are they main experience on the
Internet. Thus webpages have the main attention of people wanting to
bring quality to other people. For webpage design HTML is currently
used. And this is a mess. A by now huge standard and additions to
implement with many miniscule unobvious details and webpage renderers
with many faults have lead to headaches everywhere (people developing
the renderers a.k.a. browsers, people designing the webpages, people
viewing the pages). Webpage design suffers from HTML being a text
content description language. Some problems: For text to display, a p
tag is necessary. This implies the text being a paragraph which is not
always the case, more later. The paragraph as then rendered by browsers
has no defined position: its position from a corner, let it be the top
left one, is browser dependent. (As tested with Internet Explorer 7 and
Opera 9.5). The p tag would be fine to relay information that the text
is a paragraph but it is not suited for the thing people conduct their
interaction with when accessing web resources.
    A layout and positioning language is needed.
Here is one: let there be pure boxes only: define their position from
any corner of the parent box absolutely or relatively. Define their size
absolutely or relatively to the parents box size. Allow rounded
elliptical corners. Give the boxes a resource definer (flat color,
image, text file, video, web page) to have that resource be fetched and
displayed inside (without margins). Define opaque or transparent
background for the box. This way every layout of today is possible in an
easy to design manner and with a homogene display across browsers as it
is easy to implement. For text allow fonts (to be downloaded from the
server the page is on) and utilize a simple character styling language
including definition of line division sizes. Language details for
dynamic contents like menus is still needed though an onhover definer
may be enough.
I can write this down a bit more formal if you agree that HTML is
outdated (by no deadline though).

Thanks and kind regards

Lars Hansen
Received on Friday, 22 January 2010 15:42:31 UTC

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