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Re: removal of frame / frameset - how will user resizeable panes be supported?

From: Joop Nijenhuis <joop.nijenhuis@hccnet.nl>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:23:26 +0200
Message-ID: <4AABF52E.6181AB50@hccnet.nl>
To: public-html-comments@w3.org
Going to the link below I get this as an example;

iframe,object[type^="text/"],
object[type$="+xml"],object[type="application/xml"] 
{ 
  overflow:auto;
  resize:both;
}

I don't want to be rude, but this type of declaration looks more like
programming than the one found with frames which is understood much
better by none programmers. The www is for everyone, not only for the
happy few who know how the handle programming code. CSS has gone far
beyond simple and simple users have to rely on programs which will *not*
do what the users wants, but he/she has no choice. Next you are forced
to some certain OS-systems because such programs are not for less used
OS-systems. This is exactly the policy of a certain firm who wants no
healthy competition. Also the CSS 2.1 is not yet implemented in browsers
and far away concerning editors. Its fine to me if one have a choice,
CSS or just frames, but better implemented than today. Frames have to
get back in HTML 5 specification, its not up to you what to decide, but
its the user of the web. Or are you afraid that it might get crowded if
you keep html simple?

Regards,
Joop


> Many thanks for the recommendation - I found more detail here:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-ui/#resizing
> 
> But was concerned by this earler comment in the same document:
> 
>  > Features that are at risk (see the below list) will be dropped
> ...
> 
>  > Features at risk
>  >
>  > The Working Group has identified the following features as at risk of 
> being removed from CSS3 Basic User Interface when exiting CR.
> ...
>  >    * 'cursor' property values: ew-resize | ns-resize | nesw-resize | 
> nwse-resize
>  >    * 'resize' property
> 
> Do any agents currently support this? I cannot seem to find an 
> implementation.
Received on Saturday, 12 September 2009 19:40:06 GMT

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