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[Bug 18342] css borders for tables ugly on all browsers, want border="n" back

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Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:08:19 +0000
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--- Comment #2 from Jim Michaels <jmichae3@yahoo.com> 2012-07-22 08:08:19 UTC ---
border-collapse? I didn't know what that meant when I first saw it. my book
didn't tell me.
the problem is, this always intuitive, and finding out how to do this in the
reverse direction when you know what you want to do on the web isn't easy. I
didn't check recent documentation on w3c css tables (never thought of searching
for those keywords before, for 20 years).

for one thing, I don't know how to do all that shorthand stuff because I just
don't use it often enough to justify it (or it's just not readable and I want
readable CSS I can maintain 6 months later). 

I suppose you can close this bug,  unless you want to take care of some of this
stuff below:

let's compare using joe average's code using 3 methods:

I thought that using border="n" saved space, and it does, by 54-307 characters.
if you are not doing captions, it saves space by 110-149 characters. 

I did have problems aligning the caption sides (which is supposed to be part of
a table!) with the rows.  caption in ff13 was larger than the rows. I assumed
both would have the same width and that one would realign the other.  also, for
some reason, css that applies to table doesn't apply to the caption.  maybe
there is some reason for this?  browser bugs?

3 browsers (ie8, ff13, opera12) incorrectly render the following page (just
picking one, all 3 pages on these 3 browsers were equally bad):
so if you have a browser test kit, you can add one of these pages to it.

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