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[Bug 14111] New: XHTML5 without DTD _and_ without Schema? This is crazy! This is an utterly unacceptable break with W3C traditions! I was so glad that I could use Schema validation on XHTML 1.1 to make sure that neither I nor one of the tools does something wrong, and you

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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 07:34:00 +0000
To: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
Message-ID: <bug-14111-2486@http.www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/>
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14111

           Summary: XHTML5 without DTD _and_ without Schema? This is
                    crazy! This is an utterly unacceptable break with W3C
                    traditions! I was so glad that I could use Schema
                    validation on XHTML 1.1 to make sure that neither I
                    nor one of the tools does something wrong, and you
           Product: HTML WG
           Version: unspecified
          Platform: Other
               URL: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#top
        OS/Version: other
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)
        AssignedTo: ian@hixie.ch
        ReportedBy: contributor@whatwg.org
         QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
                CC: mike@w3.org, public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org,
                    public-html@w3.org


Specification: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/Overview.html
Multipage: http://www.whatwg.org/C#top
Complete: http://www.whatwg.org/c#top

Comment:
XHTML5 without DTD _and_ without Schema? This is crazy! This is an utterly
unacceptable break with W3C traditions! I was so glad that I could use Schema
validation on XHTML 1.1 to make sure that neither I nor one of the tools does
something wrong, and you're removing this important interoperability feature
from the community? I know, neither DTD nor Schema can check everything, but
at least they can check something, quite a lot in fact!
As long as there is no DTD or Schema, and as long as there is support for this
non-XML-conformant markup mess, HTML5 is throwing us back in the stone-age of
the web. I predict that in 3 years from now, we're back in the mid 90ies where
by looking at one browser you couldn't tell how it looks in another. Without
DTD / Schema, validators will be used much less frequently. XML based content
management systems will have to run without validator. And without validation,
even the best Acid test will say absolutely nothing because it is a good case
test and not a bad case (spec violation) test.

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