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[Bug 14029] normative reference to specification whose author/editor is undisclosed

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Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 03:25:49 +0000
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14029

--- Comment #13 from Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> 2011-09-06 03:25:46 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> Oh, come on.  How is that any different from my participation under the name
> "Boris Zbarsky", or the participation of "Ian 'Hixie' Hickson"?
> 
> Or yours for that matter?  I have no idea whether "Glenn Adams" is your real
> name, nor any way to verify whether it is.  Nor do I care whether it is.
> 
> So the real question is why the "identity" (whatever the heck that is; the
> concept is a pretty fuzzy one) of Ms2ger matters to you.   Would it really be
> any different from your point of view if the editor were listed as John Smith,
> or any other name that Ms2ger might happen to go by?
> 
> You may want to read some of the recent discussion about names on Google+ and
> Facebook, as well as
> http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/
> items 1 and 40 before answering the above question, just to avoid specious
> arguments about people having an identity or names identifying people.

Well, Boris, I have no need to hide my identity. One of my hobbies happens to
be Amateur Radio, for which every participant employs a call sign issued by a
government operating under ITU principles. My call sign happens to be N0GNR,
which I am required to use to identify myself every time I transmit on the air.
A requirement of the FCC, in issuing my license, is that I have a verifiable,
US postal address, and that three other examiners witness various pieces of
identity when taking the license examinations. Once licensed, the FCC records
my license in the in the Federal Universal Licensing System, where you or
anyone in the public that knows my name or call sign can find a copy of my
license, including a public citation of my physical address.

You say you don't care about my identity, but here is a public citation of my
identity recognized by the US government:
http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=3261019.

I could also give you my (US Army Airborne) Armed Forces Service Number if you
wish to verify my military records. But, as you say, you don't care...

Where I came from, we have rather colorful names for folk that hide behind
walls,  including walls of pseudonyms. But this is polite company, and we don't
want this to become argumentum ad hominem tu quoque.

73s,
Glenn (N0GNR)

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