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[Bug 12925] in the 1st example 3 'hr' are used like an anonymous 'h#' => 'hr' should move to 4.4. The final 'hr' is of a different kind and wouldn't be there if we had lists ('dl' here) nested inside 'p'. The second example is mostly like the first three 'hr', i.e. a

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Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 01:26:27 +0000
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12925

Ian 'Hixie' Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> changed:

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             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|                            |WONTFIX

--- Comment #7 from Ian 'Hixie' Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> 2011-09-04 01:26:27 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #5)
> > It's more like a paragraph than a heading.
> 
> Only in the second case.

In all cases.


> > It's just a thematic break, it's not a whole new section.
> 
> The first and third examples donít make that clear.

The definition of the element is "The hr element represents a paragraph-level
thematic break". How can one get more clear than that? The examples are not
normative.

The first example seems pretty clear on the matter though. Each <hr> separates
themes within the section on communication: the first theme is related to
stones, the second to radios, the third to flares.

I don't know which example you mean by "third example". If you mean the second
one in the <hr> section, then it is not hypothetical; it comes straight from a
real book, where there's a real thematic break in the form of extra whitespace
and a star, which is exactly what <hr> is for.


> Remove them or move them to
> 4.4 (heading elements) and change "<hr>" to "<h2></h2>" as an example for when
> an empty heading is useful.

An empty heading doesn't make the slightest bit of sense, IMHO. A heading is by
definition not something that's empty. The star between two paragraphs in a
novel is not a heading, nor a new section. It's just a thematic break.


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Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: <hr> is, exactly as defined, a thematic break, which doesn't affect
sectioning.

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