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[Bug 9080] Confusing alt text in the second The Lady of Shalott example

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steve faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from steve faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>  2010-03-30 08:45:13 ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> IMHO no, the UI in his case is pretty poor for users of graphical UAs.
> I don't really think this is a good way to present the information. Something
> like:
>    <aside>
>      <p><cite>The Lady of Shallot</cite> has inspired other art, for example
> the following painting:</p>
>      <figure>
>        <img src="shalott.jpeg" alt="A painting of a young women with long hair
> sitting in a wooden boat. She is wearing a flowing white dress. A large piece
> of intricately patterned fabric is draped over the side. In her right hand she
> holds the chain mooring the boat. Her expression is mournful. She stares at a
> crucifix lying in front of her, besides which are three candles, one lit.">
>      </figure>
>      <p><a href="http://bit.ly/5HJvVZ">More information about this
> painting...</a></p>
>    </aside>
> ...would IMHO be significantly more comprehensible for the purpose you are
> describing, for all users.

(In reply to comment #4)
> IMHO no, the UI in his case is pretty poor for users of graphical UAs.
> I don't really think this is a good way to present the information. Something
> like:
>    <aside>
>      <p><cite>The Lady of Shallot</cite> has inspired other art, for example
> the following painting:</p>
>      <figure>
>        <img src="shalott.jpeg" alt="A painting of a young women with long hair
> sitting in a wooden boat. She is wearing a flowing white dress. A large piece
> of intricately patterned fabric is draped over the side. In her right hand she
> holds the chain mooring the boat. Her expression is mournful. She stares at a
> crucifix lying in front of her, besides which are three candles, one lit.">
>      </figure>
>      <p><a href="http://bit.ly/5HJvVZ">More information about this
> painting...</a></p>
>    </aside>
> ...would IMHO be significantly more comprehensible for the purpose you are
> describing, for all users.


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Status: partially accepted
Change Description: modified link/title text in example to "Information about
this painting inspired by the poem." and added another example that provides a
visible ttext link.

<hgroup><h1>The Lady of Shalott</h1>
<h2>A poem by Alfred Lord Tennyson</h2></hgroup>
<figure><a href="http://bit.ly/5HJvVZ">
<img src="shalott.jpeg" alt=""><p>Information about this painting inspired by
the poem.</p></a></figure>
<!-- Full Recitation of Alfred, Lord Tennyson's Poem.  -->

Rationale: 
The purpose of the examples are to illustrate a variety of methods for
providing text alternatives within given visual style and formatting
constraints. As you can see from examples more towards the start of the
document I have provided information about the advantages and disadvantages of
a particular method, I am continuing to edit the document and will include such
information on any examples for which it is appropriate.

I do not consider your example to be useful as the link is not expliclty
associated with the image of the painting and it changes the context of the use
of the image. 


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