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Re: request a heartbeat publication of HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:08:27 -0400
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: Sam Ruby <rubys@us.ibm.com>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20141010200827.GA30603@opera.rednote.net>
I wonder why you have launched this campaign only on the HTML-Admin
list, and not cc'd your request to PF and to the TF.  As the HTML-WG
Charter clearly states, as your own current draft acknowledges, this
document is a TF document and publication approval is required from PF
as well.

Therefore, if you are serious in this request, I cannot understand why
you would post this call here--where no WG approval is required, yet
neglect to cc PF or the TF. That, in my view, is unhelpful behavior on
your part, and I am deeply disappointed by it.

I know you are fully aware of the reasons why this document cannot move
forward, even to heartbeat, at this time. This was pointed out to you
just this week in the thread beginning at:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Oct/0004.html

The consensus required, even for a heartbeat, simply isn't there at the
moment. Meanwhile, saying one thing in one place, and doing something
different in another is only going to make it harder to get that
consensus.

May I ask you to clarify whether you have rescinded your resignation
from this document? Your message below suggests you intend to resign,
yet you told the TF, but not this list, that you were resigning two
weeks ago:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Oct/0009.html

Which is it?

Lastly, please explain your assertion below regarding the importance of
a heartbeat at this time. What's so very important of publishing in TR
space with bugs already filed against the dcocument, and with others
expected shortly. Surely, you are as capable as any of us to keep your
own snapshot--or unroll to some date in Git. That's just not a
persuasive reason, nor is it helping us get past the current impass.

Janina








Steven Faulkner writes:
> Dear Chairs.
> 
> In regards to:
> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives
> http://w3c.github.io/alt-techniques/
> 
> As It is unclear when  the document will be published as a note and what
> direction the planned changes will take I consider it a reasonable request
> that  a heartbeat draft be published by the HTML WG  before the new
> editor(s) start work on the document. In its current form the document
> accurately reflects the related advice on provision of text alternatives
> contained in the HTML5 PR specification [1]. The current HTML5: Techniques
> for providing useful text alternatives WD
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html-alt-techniques/ is 2 years old and is largely
> obsolete. I consider it an important of the review process to be able to
> have a stable up to date snapshot of the document in its current form
> available for myself and others who intend to contribute feedback as the
> document changes.
> 
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html/embedded-content-0.html#alt
> 
> --
> 
> Regards
> 
> SteveF
> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>

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