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Re: text alternatives standalone draft

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:12:47 +0100
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To: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Mark Sadecki <mark@w3.org>, Janina Sajka <janina@a11y.org>
HI Dave, thanks sorry I should have said before, could people file bugs -
thanks!

file a bug -
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?comment=&product=HTML%20WG&component=CR%20alt%20techniques%20%28editor%3A%20Steven%20Faulkner%29

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Regards

SteveF
HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>


On 21 April 2014 15:49, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Hi Steve
>
> A couple a thoughts...
>
> 1) I think screen reader users should be explicitly informed that
> information below is the alternative... rather than deducing it from the
> heading above the alternative.
>
> alt="Flowchart: Dealing with a broken lamp.">
>
> I would add "full description below"
>
> alt="Flowchart: Dealing with a broken lamp. Full description below">
> ========
>
> alt="Bar chart: Average rainfall in millimetres by Country and Season."
>
> Same here
>
> alt="Bar chart: Average rainfall in millimetres by Country and Season.
> Table of data below"
>
>
> 2) I'm not sure of "more than a couple of sentences" being the guidance
> for providing a long text alternative. I've always understood it to be if
> it requires more than about 100 words, OR if there is a necessity to
> structure it, then a long and structured description should be provided. A
> couple of sentences means about 20 words. Do we really want people to start
> requiring a long description if the alt is more than 20 words? Remember,
> the general public will take this document as the final word... I would
> like other's thoughts on this.
>
> 3) Also I think we need an example of the long description immediately
> following the image, where it is hidden in an expandable tag such as the
> Details/Summary (or a JavaScript fallback) .... every developer I know
> resists long text following an image because they don't want to give up the
> page real estate.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David MacDonald
>
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> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> here is an updated draft of the alt text standalone doc I have been
>> threatening to prepare but not actually delivered on until now.
>>
>> Its still needs a little work, but is almost ready. This is intended to
>> be published as a note.
>>
>> HTML5: Techniques for providing useful text alternatives
>>
>> W3C Editor's Draft 20 April 2014
>>
>> http://rawgit.com/w3c/alt-techniques/master/index.html
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> SteveF
>> HTML 5.1 <http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/>
>>
>
>
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