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RE: Oppose DRM ! Re: CfC: to publish Encrypted Media Extensions specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD)

From: John C. Vernaleo <john@netpurgatory.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:40:57 -0500 (EST)
To: "Kotay, Sree" <Sree_Kotay@cable.comcast.com>
cc: "ifette@google.com" <ifette@google.com>, Mathias Bynens <mathias@qiwi.be>, Andreas Kuckartz <a.kuckartz@ping.de>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1301221638150.12065@yoshi>
I don't think that equivalence is true at all and I suspect I'm not the 
only one.  I don't even know how to argue against it since you don't 
actually provide any arguement in favor of it other than making the claim.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2013, Kotay, Sree wrote:

> Arguing DRM is against the spirit of the Open Web is a little like arguing
> authentication and security are against the spirit of the Open Web.
> Very much agree that fundamentally closed security models are not a good
> idea, and even agree that much of DRM has been about exactly that --- but it
> needn't be.   
> 
> sree
> 
> 
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> From: Ian Fette (イアンフェッティ) [ifette@google.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:44 PM
> To: Mathias Bynens
> Cc: Andreas Kuckartz; public-html-admin@w3.org
> Subject: Re: Oppose DRM ! Re: CfC: to publish Encrypted Media Extensions
> specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD)
> 
> While I hate DRM as much as the next person, one has to ask what the
> alternatives are. It's all well and good for us to sit high on our morals
> and say "DRM bad!" but the reality is that the web is competing with other
> ecosystems (Native apps like iTunes, plugins like Silverlight and Flash)
> where DRM is available. By saying "No DRM in HTML5" it's not clear to me
> that we're not blowing off our own own hand in an effort to deal with a
> thorn in our finger. I think what this does is simply give people one more
> reason to say "The web is inadequate, we need to stick with our native apps
> or plugins".
> My personal opinion only.
> -Ian
> 
> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Mathias Bynens <mathias@qiwi.be> wrote:
>       On 22 Jan 2013, at 19:17, "Andreas Kuckartz"
>       <A.Kuckartz@ping.de> wrote:
>
>       > -1
>       >
>       > As discussed here some time ago the only purpose of this
>       specification
>       > is to enable DRM, which is Defective by Design
>       > http://www.defectivebydesign.org/
> 
> Agreed. DRM is against the spirit of the Open Web.
> 
> 
> 
>
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