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RE: CfC: to publish "HTML5 Image Description Extension" specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD)

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 01:08:54 +0000
To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
CC: "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, "Charles McCathie Nevile (chaals@yandex-team.ru)" <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, "Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net)" <janina@rednote.net>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org" <mike@w3.org>, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>, Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>
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>- As a Working Draft publication, the document does not need not be complete, to meet all technical requirements, or to have consensus on the contents.
All three of your points appear to be possible technical bugs against the HTML5 Image Description Extension specification.   Can you explain why they cannot be handled this way and why they should stand in the way of the FPWD?

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
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From: Silvia Pfeiffer [mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:05 PM
To: Paul Cotton
Cc: public-html-admin@w3.org; Charles McCathie Nevile (chaals@yandex-team.ru); Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net); Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org; Judy Brewer; Michael Cooper
Subject: Re: CfC: to publish "HTML5 Image Description Extension" specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD)

The below are my personal opinions.

I assume the implication of accepting this CFC is that "longdesc on img elements" will be removed from the section that states that it is non-conforming [1].

I'm supportive of this CFC under the following conditions:

1. I'd like to make sure that "longdesc on iframe elements" remains non-conforming.

2. I'd also like to make sure we come up with a more generic means of linking to external long descriptions for any replaced element, not just images. In the long term I'd like to see such a feature and I'd like to see that feature replace @longdesc on images, too. I'm therefore suggesting that for HTML5.1 @longdesc on img is added to the list of obsolete but conforming features [2] with a statement that it is there for legacy reasons and will be replaced by a new aria-* attribute.

I'm saying aria-* because if it is an accessibility-only attribute, it should be in the aria namespace. Proponents that argue that it's not just for accessibility should use <a> instead.

Regards,
Silvia.

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/single-page.html#non-conforming-features
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/single-page.html#obsolete-but-conforming-features

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>> wrote:

This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD) the following "HTML5 Image Description Extension" specification:



        https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/b63325998cc1/longdesc1/longdesc.html



Silence will be taken to mean there is no objection, but positive responses are encouraged. If there are no objections by Tuesday Feb 26, this resolution will carry.



Considerations to note:



- As a First Public Working Draft, this publication will trigger patent policy review.



- As a Working Draft publication, the document does not need not be complete, to meet all technical requirements, or to have consensus on the contents.



/paulc

HTML WG co-chair

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
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