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MINUTES: HTML A11Y TF Teleconference, 6 August 2015

From: Mark Sadecki <mark.sadecki@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 12:10:00 -0400
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   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

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              HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

06 Aug 2015

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/08/06-html-a11y-irc

Attendees

   Present
          janina, paulc, Joanmarie_Diggs, Mark, Sadecki, LJWatson,
          Ian, Pouncey

   Regrets
          Judy, Liam

   Chair
          janina

   Scribe
          MarkS

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Identify Scribe
            http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scr
            ibe_List
         2. [5]Agenda Edits & Additions
         3. [6]Identify Scribe
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            ibe_List
         4. [7]Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina,
            Paul, PLH
         5. [8]Transcript Support Update -- Chaals
         6. [9]Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam
         7. [10]Tab Panels Update -- Leonie, Et Al
         8. [11]Web Payments Accessibility Followup
         9. [12]Bug Triage -- Leonie
        10. [13]TF Open Actions http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
        11. [14]Other Business
        12. [15]Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina,
            Paul, PLH
     * [16]Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 06 August 2015

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   <janina> Your theory proves out, imo

   <paulc> Are we expecting Rich today?

   <scribe> scribe: MarkS

Agenda Edits & Additions

   JS: anything to add to agenda today?

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Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul, PLH

   JS: Rich is not here, but he did give us an update. We reduced
   the number of tests that were failing.
   ... locating email from Rich

   <janina>
   [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Au
   g/0006.html

     [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Aug/0006.html

   JS: looks like we have a few more bugs but we are making
   progress

   PC: correct on the bugs. Wondering if we have enough CR
   evidence to move forward (implemenations)
   ... the general consensus from Rich and PLH was that chrome had
   a bug but it didn't stop us from advancing. but that may have
   changed. I think we need a new high level summary.

   JS: The bugs we have found seem to be small implementation
   bugs, nothing that would bring into question implementability

   PC: I need to get confirmation so I can get started on a
   transition request. Need to know if there are any blockers.
   ... PLH is on vacation, haven't been able to reach him. I will
   follow up with Rich on this.

Transcript Support Update -- Chaals

   JS: chaals has been working on draft of transcript support.
   plan to move forward as an extension.
   ... need to determine if its ready for FPWD
   ... Leonie has taken a look and thinks it is.
   ... Chaals thinks it is ready
   ... please take a look on the list and respond if there are any
   concerns.
   ... Will need to run this through PF and HTML
   ... CFC

   PC: I will look through this as well to see what shape it is
   in.
   ... there is an issues list. are they in Github? Trying to find
   repo for this.

   LW: Its still in chaals repo. if we agree this is ready for
   FPWD, we can move it into W3C space

   JS: we will need it in W3C space with boilerplate before
   putting out the CFC

   PC: need to identify a short name as well. propose
   html-transcript

   JS: agreed

   LW: let me get the link to chaals repo

   <LJWatson> The repo for Transcript is here:
   [20]https://github.com/chaals/html-transcript

     [20] https://github.com/chaals/html-transcript

   PC: I'm not sure we need to move it to run it through CFC, but
   we DO need a stable URL.

   JS: Makes sense

   PC: What we need is a candidate FPWD for review.

   JS: Some of this can be performed by Liam. We will pull all
   these pieces together.
   ... anything else on transcript?

Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam

   JS: Neither shane nor Liam is here. Anyone else have a status
   update or any discussion points?
   ... hope we can move forward on this fairly soon.
   ... file bugs if you have any issues.

Tab Panels Update -- Leonie, Et Al

   LW: no update
   ...Summary: there is some disagreement amongst editors about
   next steps. Considering incubator groups for comments and
   discussion. Considering a blog post to introduce it and invite
   discussion.

   JS: doing both is another option

   LW: trying to figure out how much of an introduction we want to
   put up before we put it out for comment

Web Payments Accessibility Followup

   JS: follow from last week's discussion. we had action items.
   Facilitators have not yet met to discuss options, next steps.
   Everyone should review last week's minutes to get the
   background on this.
   ... Web Payments group is looking forward to working with us on
   this.
   ... need to start thinking of the accessibility issues, user
   requirements.
   ... much like Media Accessibility User Requirements
   ... probably be a sub-group of us that starts to work on this.
   ... comments or questions?

   <paulc> Proposed Web Payments WG charter was sent out for
   review yesterday:
   [21]http://www.w3.org/2015/06/payments-wg-charter

     [21] http://www.w3.org/2015/06/payments-wg-charter

   PC: the WP WG Charter was sent out yesterday to the AC for
   review.
   ... the TF or sub-group may want to take a look at this.

   JS: We will do that.

Bug Triage -- Leonie

   LW: still in holding pattern until we find out how the HTML
   spec work is going to evolve.
   ... have been in discussion with Robin who is in collaboration
   with others.

   JS: should we still keep this on the agenda?

   LW: yes, i think we should.

TF Open Actions [22]http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track

     [22] http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track

   ACTION-330, get matrix to shane on JF

   JS: I will follow up with JF on that

   ACTION-329 Media Descriptons topic on chaals

   JS: chaals is not here

   ACTION-324 is still open

   ACTION-318 on Cyns to work with Leonie on Web Driver work.
   still open

   CS: LW, how does OCT 15 sound for a discussion

   LW: sounds good

   trackbot, close ACTION-260

   <trackbot> Closed ACTION-260.

   CS: Leave my remaining actions active. I will either make
   progress or update if OBE

Other Business

   CS: any movement on Web Apps / HTML Charter?

   JS: Chaals is not here, Leonie? Paul?

   LW: Went to AC for review wednesday of last week. It's open
   until Thursday 9/10

Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Mark, Janina, Paul, PLH

   RS: Firefox, accessibility aside, their width and height are
   off everywhere a few pixels.

   JS: nothing wrong with the spec, that is a true bug

   RS: the only other think left. need to make sure the IDs are
   properly associated with regions all the way down to the
   accessibility API
   ... still a bug regarding clearing a hit region. its a bug.

   JS: Problem with spec?

   RS: no, just with implementation. can't prove until that gets
   fixed.
   ... i see no problems with the spec

   PC: have you updated the test results?

   RS: only to the list, not on the wiki

   PC: we will need that to happen before we can move forward.

   <paulc>
   [23]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015A
   ug/0011.html for our questions

     [23] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2015Aug/0011.html

   PC: if this group agrees that none of the artifacts block
   progress, I think i have all we need except for just the test
   report.
   ... will need to follow up with PLH regardless, but if that can
   be done in the next week, that would be great.

   RS: really hope Dominic acknowledges the bug and fixes the
   harness to verify

   PC: PLH may be out for 3 weeks

   RS: I will follow up with dominic and try to update the test
   results this week.

   PC: then respond on list, and I will follow up with PLH and we
   can move forward.

   RS: the end is in sight though!

   [adjourned]

   sure, I have until 12:00

   then hard stop

   calling in a minute

Summary of Action Items

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