Minutes: HTML A11y Bug triage telecon, 25 JUNE 2014

The  minutes from the Bug Triage Teleconference today can be accessed following
the summary of action items:

## For TF Review

13449 Don't allow blank alt text on area elements
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449
TODO: Need test case

23027 select and option should allow role overrides of menu and menuitem
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23027
TODO: Should we squeeze into 5.0?

13572 4.10.19 aborting autofocus based on user choice not optional
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572
TODO: What is support in UA?  Does UAAG define this behavior?  2.1.4?

## Leonie Watson

13590 VHA Comments on HTML5 Draft Specification
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590
TODO: Split into individual bugs in TF component for review

16186 Full Keyboard access and fragment identifiers
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16186
TODO: Follow up with James on list to see if he has suggested text

13508 Fully support tri-state and indeterminate controls
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508
TODO: Take closer look at and add comments

## Mark Sadecki

26059  Please list longdesc in the table of HTML5 attributes and link to its spec
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059
TODO: Follow-up

13550 type table in 4.10.7 should indicate control type changes based on list
attribute
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13550
TODO: Update bug, move to 5.1 component


HTML Minutes:

http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html

Text Minutes:
   [1]W3C

      [1] http://www.w3.org/

                      HTML A11y Bug triage telecon

25 Jun 2014

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-irc

Attendees

   Present
          Mark_Sadecki, Adrian_Roselli, Joseph_O'Connor, Leonie
          Watson

   Regrets
   Chair
          Léonie Watson

   Scribe
          MarkS

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Bug 26059
            https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059
         2. [5]HTML5.0 a11ytf bugs http://bit.ly/kwa11ytf50
         3. [6]HTML A11y TF component bugs
            http://bit.ly/a11ytfcomponent
         4. [7]HTML5.1 a11ytf bugs http://j.mp/kwa11ytf51
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
     __________________________________________________________

   <scribe> scribe: MarkS

Bug 26059 [9]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059

      [9] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059

   LW: related to longdesc
   ... had a conversation with Steve who recommended I ping Robin
   who has taken this on. Think we should follow this one.

   MS: I will take a closer look at this. I thought this was
   something we already took care of.
   ... thanks for bringing it to my attention

   <scribe> ACTION: MarkS to follow up on
   [10]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059
   [recorded in
   [11]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action0
   1]

     [10] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-270 - Follow up on
   [12]https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059 [on
   Mark Sadecki - due 2014-07-02].

     [12] https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059

HTML5.0 a11ytf bugs [13]http://bit.ly/kwa11ytf50

     [13] http://bit.ly/kwa11ytf50

   still zero bugs

   LW: We now have officially cleared all HTML5 a11y related bugs

   [cheers]

HTML A11y TF component bugs [14]http://bit.ly/a11ytfcomponent

     [14] http://bit.ly/a11ytfcomponent

   LW: these are the bugs that are in limbo. the TF needs to
   reassess the value of these bugs and decide if they need to be
   reopened or not, if so, add updated information
   ... we haven't really looked at these yet

   [15]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13550

     [15] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13550

   type table in 4.10.7 should indicate control type changes based
   on list attribute

   [16]http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-input-element

     [16] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-input-element

   <aardrian>
   [17]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/forms.html#att
   r-input-type

     [17] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/forms.html#attr-input-type

   MS: Wondering if we can address this with just text rather than
   complicating this table with another column just for this one
   use case.
   ... perhaps text, search, tel, url, email, and number can have
   a reference to text that explains that the control type changes
   to combo box if list attribute is included
   ... the note might fit nicely after the spec states that the
   default is the Text state.
   ...would still need to add text to the table, which is only
   referenced as a default value as text following the table.

   LW: perhaps we should update the bug with a pointer to these
   minutes

   <scribe> ACTION: MarkS to change the component to 5.1 and
   reference these minutes [recorded in
   [18]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action0
   2]

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-271 - Change the component to 5.1 and
   reference these minutes [on Mark Sadecki - due 2014-07-02].

   [19]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449

     [19] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13449

   Don't allow blank alt text on area elements

   MS: We need a test case. Chaals said he would do that in MArch

   LW: anyone want to take that on?

   AR: I would like to read through this bug more closely before I
   take that on.

   MS: We can ask for takers in the TF call tomorrow

   [20]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590

     [20] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590

   VHA Comments on HTML5 Draft Specification

   LW: Might be a good idea to put all of the individual bugs in
   the TF component and triage them individually

   <scribe> ACTION: LWatson to update the component on all bugs
   referenced in
   [21]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 to TF
   Component [recorded in
   [22]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action0
   4]

     [21] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-272 - Update the component on all
   bugs referenced in
   [23]https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 to tf
   component [on Léonie Watson - due 2014-07-02].

     [23] https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590

   [24]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23027

     [24] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23027

   ARIA: select and option should allow role overrides of menu and
   menuitem

   MS: might be something we want to squeeze into 5.0

   LW: Let's bring this up on the call tomorrow
   ... 13461 we are just waiting for progress on longdesc for this
   one

   [25]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23284

     [25] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23284

   Accesskey should be translatable

   MS: chaals is supposed to report on accesskey for consideration
   as a 5.1 action item

   LW: we can just sit on this one then

   [26]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572

     [26] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13572

   4.10.19 aborting autofocus based on user choice not optional

   [discussion questioning if any browsers already do this and if
   not, seems moot. should see if UAAG recommends this feature in
   UAs]

   MS: should we bring this up in the meeting tomorrow

   [27]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13639

     [27] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13639

   CSS2 System Colors Should Be Recognized

   LW: lets leave this one with Janina for a bit longer

HTML5.1 a11ytf bugs [28]http://j.mp/kwa11ytf51

     [28] http://j.mp/kwa11ytf51

   [29]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16186

     [29] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16186

   HTML 5 missing explicit directives for support full keyboard
   access (FKA) when navigating to a fragment identifier

   LW: I will ping James on list to see if he can suggest spec
   text that would clear this issue up

   [30]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508

     [30] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508

   Fully support tri-state and indeterminate controls

   AR: If the spec doesn't point to a mixed state solution using
   an aria, then this is an editorial change

   LW: I will look more closely at this tomorrow and add comments

   <scribe> ACTION: LWatson to look more closely at
   [31]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 and
   add comments [recorded in
   [32]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action0
   5]

     [31] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508

   <trackbot> Created ACTION-273 - Look more closely at
   [33]https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 and
   add comments [on Léonie Watson - due 2014-07-02].

     [33] https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508

Summary of Action Items

   [NEW] ACTION: LJWatson to update the component on all bugs
   referenced in
   https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 to TF
   Component [recorded in
   [34]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action0
   3]
   [NEW] ACTION: LWatson to look more closely at
   https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13508 and add
   comments [recorded in
   [35]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action0
   5]
   [NEW] ACTION: LWatson to update the component on all bugs
   referenced in
   https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13590 to TF
   Component [recorded in
   [36]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action0
   4]
   [NEW] ACTION: MarkS to change the component to 5.1 and
   reference these minutes [recorded in
   [37]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action0
   2]
   [NEW] ACTION: MarkS to follow up on
   https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26059 [recorded
   in
   [38]http://www.w3.org/2014/06/25-a11y-bugs-minutes.html#action0
   1]

   [End of minutes]
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