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Re: A11Y-related CR bug discussion at HTML WG F2F

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> (janina@rednote.net) <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:43:45 +0800
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Cc: "Charles McCathie Nevile (chaals@yandex-team.ru)" <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, "Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com> (faulkner.steve@gmail.com)" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "Robin Berjon (robin@w3.org)" <robin@w3.org>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Message-ID: <20131112064345.GB5924@sonata.rednote.net>
Hi, Paul:

Thank you for the a11y related agenda items of interest to the HTML F2F.
Thank you also for seeking a good time when Steve might possibly join by
telephone.

Regretably, there are others I think we might want in some of this
discussion who are in north America, and for whom morning times are
better than afternoon times.


Also, there are some additional items PF would like to address with the
HTML-WG that I would like to add to your list:

1.)	How do we understand and work with Thank you for the a11y
related agenda items of interest to the HTML F2F. Thank you also for
seeking a good time when Steve might possibly join by telephone.

Regretably, there are others I think we might want in some of this
discussion who are in north America, and for whom morning times are
better than afternoon times.
Paul Cotton writes: 

Also, there are some additional items PF would like to address with the
HTML-WG that I would like to add to your list:

1.)	How do we understand and work with Thank you for the a11y
related agenda items of interest to the HTML F2F. Thank you also for
seeking a good time when Steve might possibly join by telephone.

Regretably, there are others I think we might want in some of this
discussion who are in north America, and for whom morning times are
better than afternoon times.  

Also, there are some additional items PF would like to address with the
HTML-WG that I would like to add to your list:

1.)	How do we understand and work with Thank you for the a11y
related agenda items of interest to the HTML F2F. Thank you also for
seeking a good time when Steve might possibly join by telephone.

Regretably, there are others I think we might want in some of this
discussion who are in north America, and for whom morning times are
better than afternoon times. So, I'm not certain we can clear all our
agenda in one time slot, or even during this particular F2F.


You had previously asked for a report to the WG on the status of the
TF's Image Description specification (longdesc). Is that still desired?

Also, PF would like to raise a discussion of DOM4 vs. the continuing
development of DOM3 in Web Apps. How do we approach what at firs blush
appear to be competing specs?


And we should probably discuss moving to conclusion on the edits to Sec.
4.8.1.1 now in the 5.1 spec, wich the TF expects to be back ported to
5.0.

Lastly, I see a question has arisen re Canvas 2d that may be better
resolved on the 21st at the upcoming TF telecon.

This is the more complete list of items, afaik. Needless to say, I'm
concerned not to overly impede IndieUI. Yet, we should look to make
progress during the F2F, where we can.

Janina

> 5 of the remaining 18 HTML5 CR bugs are accessibility related [1].  The HTML WG Editors and Chairs would like to have a discussion of the A11Y-related CR bugs at the HTML WG F2F this week in Shenzhen.  I know that many A11Y TF members that are in Shenzhen are attending the Indie UI WG meeting on Thu and Fri. 
> 
> Would it be possible for some subset of the A11Y TF members to participate in the HTML WG F2F to discuss these bugs?  In addition if Steve could join us remotely we could consider scheduling this item for Thu or Fri afternoon to take into account the China to Europe time change.
> 
> The accessibility-related CR bugs that we would like to discuss are listed below:
> 
> 1. Bug 18574 - @hidden should have a weak mapping to aria-hidden=true
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18574 
> 
> 2. Bug 19277 - Relationship and precedence of hidden="" and display:none should be clarified/defined
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19277 
> 
> 3. Bug 20987 - The main element could do with some more examples
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20987 
> 
> 4. Bug 21579 - Empty @alt should not imply role="presentation" if the <img> has @usemap
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21579 
> 
> 5. Bug 23380 - review other aria state mappings to see if they need to be explicitly allowed
> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23380 
> 
> /paulc
> HTML WG co-chair
> 
> [1] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&component=HTML5%20spec&keywords=CR&list_id=29751
> 
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
> 
> 

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Janina Sajka,	Phone:	+1.443.300.2200
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Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
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	Indie UI			http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/
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