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RE: CfC: Publish three heartbeat drafts as WDs

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 18:04:18 +0000
To: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, "Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org)" <mike@w3.org>, "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
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> But given that the bug is listed as one that will be fixed, and expecting that there is still a long time between here and requesting a transition from CR, I am OK with publishing the updates as is and waiting for the bugfixes to happen before any actual transition request.

Please note this CfC is for a heartbeat draft of HTML 5.1 NOT a heartbeat of the HTML 5.0 CR.   

>> Considerations to note:
>> - As a Working Draft publication, the document does not need not be 
>> complete, to meet all technical requirements, or to have consensus on 
>> the contents.

Janina: Since we have a bug filed and an intent to process that bug AND that we do NOT necessarily need consensus on the WD contents, do you still want to hold to your objection?

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
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-----Original Message-----
From: Charles McCathie Nevile [mailto:chaals@yandex-team.ru] 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:40 PM
To: Sam Ruby; Maciej Stachowiak; Paul Cotton; Michael(tm) Smith (mike@w3.org); public-html-admin@w3.org; Janina Sajka
Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force; team-html-a11y@w3.org; W3C WAI Protocols & Formats
Subject: Re: CfC: Publish three heartbeat drafts as WDs

On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:54:57 +0400, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
wrote:

> Dear All:
>
> I must oppose publication of this heartbeat as currently constituted.
>
> By agreement in the Plan 2014 negotiations, longdesc was to have been 
> removed from Sec. 11
[...]
> Yet longdesc continues to be listed among Obsolete Attributes which 
> "authors must not use:"
> http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat-201305/html/obsolete.html#non-conforming-f

> eatures
>
> Is it desired that a bug be filed to this effect?

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21341 has been open since March.

Note also
http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat-201305/diff/Overview.html#obsolete-attributes

which I presume is a consequence. But then, that draft has all kinds of small errors.

This is not a shining example of careful work. But given that the bug is listed as one that will be fixed, and expecting that there is still a long time between here and requesting a transition from CR, I am OK with publishing the updates as is and waiting for the bugfixes to happen before any actual transition request.

cheers

Chaals

> Janina
>
> authors
> Paul Cotton writes:
>> This is a Call for Consensus (CfC) to publish new revisions of the 
>> following documents in accordance with the Working Group heartbeat 
>> requirements. We are planning to prepare and publish the drafts 
>> during the week of May 27.
>>
>> 1. HTML 5.1 - http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat-201305/html/Overview.html

>>
>> 2. HTML Canvas 2D Context, Level 2 - 
>> http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat-201305/2dcontext/Overview.html

>>
>> 3. Differences from HTML4 -
>> http://htmlwg.org/heartbeat-201305/diff/Overview.html

>>
>> Silence will be taken to mean there is no objection, but positive 
>> responses are encouraged. If there are no objections by Tue May 28 
>> then this CfC resolution will carry.
>>
>> Considerations to note:
>> - As a Working Draft publication, the document does not need not be 
>> complete, to meet all technical requirements, or to have consensus on 
>> the contents.
>> - Objections may be made on specific documents but not on others.
>>
>> /paulc
>> HTML WG co-chair
>>
>> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>>
>>
>


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