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[Bug 10618] Use "unmapped" rather than "no role" in the weak/strong ARIA tables

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Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 16:33:29 +0000
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Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
             Blocks|                            |20696
         Resolution|FIXED                       |---

--- Comment #11 from Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no> ---

Ian’s solution did not change the "no role" name. He simply re-explained it and
in a confusing way. Thus reopening.


(1) The fragment URI (#concept-role-none) hints that a concept is being
explained. However, the definition says that "no role" means one thing for
features with 'strong native semantics' and another thing for features with a
"default implicit ARIA role".

    This is confusing because:

   a) the strong table makes clear the it actually list features
      with a "default implicit ARIA role" (that have the 
      *additional* feature of being "strong native semantics").
      Thus, the definition in reality applies to the features 
      with strong native semantics as well.

   b) as told in bug 20696, if anything specific ought to be
      said about whether strong native semantics features can
      take the presentation role, then this should be said
      inside the section about strong semantics and not in
      the section about weak/default implicit semantics.

(2) The importance of a term that preferably is shared/defined by ARIA too, has
increased since I filed this bug, due to the fact that HTML5 and ARIA now use
the same definition of "strong native semantics" and "default implicit ARIA
role". (Since Ian resolved this bug, those wordings has been equipped with a
link to their definitions.)

(3) As explained in bug 20696: If anything has to be said about whether
features that have "no (ARIA-defined) role" as their strong native semantics
can take presentation role too, then this ought to be said inside the section
about Strong Native Semantics rather than inside the section about Implicit
ARIA semantics.


#1. Replace "no role" with another wording. 
    Proposed wording: "not an ARIA-defined role"
                  or: "no ARIA-defined role"
    The term shoud be found together with the the ARIA spec 
    community so the two specs can use a shared definition.

#2. Make the text a definition of "not an ARIA-defined role" *alone*! Thus
*remove* the explanation of the (possible) consequences for strong vs "weak"

    Proposed rewording:

]] The entry "not an ARIA-defined role" means that the user agent has no
default mapping to ARIA roles. (However, it probably will have its own mappings
to the accessibility layer.) [[

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