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RE: Requesting bugzilla component for HTML-A11y-TF

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 21:13:26 +0000
To: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>
CC: "public-html-a11y@w3.org" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, "Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net)" <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "Maciej Stachowiak (mjs@apple.com)" <mjs@apple.com>, Mike Smith <mike@w3.org>
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Thanks for the summary of the requirements.  Your explanation sounds like you want to use this new component for NEW bugs.

> Can you please create a bugzilla component for the HTML-A11y-TF, so 
> that people can assign re-opened bugs to the TF where appropriate?

But Judy's original request appeared to apply only to older bugs that were being re-opened so that the A11Y TF could work on the re-opened bugs.  

Personally I think Judy's requirement could have simply been met by using the Keyword field.  For example the search http://tinyurl.com/a66h5e9 finds all bugs across all specs in the Product "HTML WG" with the Keyword field containing "a11ytf".

But I will "suspend disbelief" for now and simply watch how the new component is used.

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329


-----Original Message-----
From: Charles McCathie Nevile [mailto:chaals@yandex-team.ru] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 12:44 PM
To: Judy Brewer; Paul Cotton
Cc: public-html-a11y@w3.org; Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net); Maciej Stachowiak (mjs@apple.com); Mike Smith
Subject: Re: Requesting bugzilla component for HTML-A11y-TF

Hi Paul,

On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:16:33 +0100, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:

> I do not understand how this new component will be used.

We're not trying to prdict the entire future, but we have some ideas...

> ALL the other Components under the "HTML WG" Product refer directly to 
> a particular specification at a particular W3C process step ie WD, LC, 
> CR, etc.

Right.

> This is the first Component that does not refer directly to a 
> particular specification.

Indeed. The most particular use case motivating the component is where we identify an issue, but we're not really sure where in the plethora of specifications it should be addressed - or we think it needs to be tracked over more than one specification, and it seems that it does not always make sense to track everything on the HTML spec itself.

In many cases (e.g. the longdesc spec) we don't currently see a need - although people who want "something that does what longdesc does but not longdesc" and don't have a concrete alternative, or think that the functionality can be split over a multiplicity of other approaches, may well want to raise such a bug.

> If bugs on a particular specification are re-opened and the Component 
> is changed to "HTML a11y Task Force" does that no lose the information 
> that was encoded in the original Component field?

If that should happen, then yes some information could be lost. Hopefully such an act would be accompanied by recording the relevant data elsewhere in the bug, rather than relying on someone going through the history to reconstruct it. But I doubt that many such bugs will be shifted that way.
I think it is more for things which are not yet clear enough to be dealt with in a given specification.

At least that is how I understand it. We'll see what happens to our plans when they meet reality...

cheers

Chaals

> /paulc
>
> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Brewer [mailto:jbrewer@w3.org]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:41 AM
> To: Mike Smith
> Cc: public-html-a11y@w3.org
> Subject: Requesting bugzilla component for HTML-A11y-TF
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Can you please create a bugzilla component for the HTML-A11y-TF, so 
> that people can assign re-opened bugs to the TF where appropriate?
>
> We currently have several Task Force sub-groups processing batches of 
> bugs that LĂ©onie has passed to us on behalf of the Bug Triage Sub-Team.
> A HTML-A11y-TF bugzilla component would provide the most logical 
> classification for some of those bugs.
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Judy
>
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> Director, Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), World Wide Web 
> Consortium
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