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[Bug 18744] drop WAI-ARIA scope restriction in the text adopted in ISSUE-204

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Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:37:47 +0000
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--- Comment #20 from Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no> 2012-09-09 22:37:47 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #19)
> (In reply to comment #15)
> > 2) <label> has the ID association backwards; the auxiliary label/description
> > references the content rather than the other way around. So that makes it
> > unlike any of the other cases we are thinking about. I think there's a
> > difference between letting references point to hidden elements and letting
> > hidden elements create references. For example, you might have multiple labels
> > pointing to the same control and hide all but the currently relevant one.
> Doubt the direction of the reference makes any difference here.

I think Maciej had a point. That said: I think Benjamin has a point as well.

The <label for> element seems special. And it is only by acknowleding that it
is special that we can, eventually, include it for AT users. How is it special?
Well, perhaps a @uselabel on the <input> rather htan @for on the <label>, might
have been more ideal? It is, in a way, unfortunate that AT users should be less
lucky *just* because the @for points the wrong way, not?

QUESTION: Speaking about the examples in Ted's current text proposal,
          then do we expect 

    * that AT just hide <th hidden="" id="foo"> elements 
      and the <map name="foo"  hidden="" id="foo"> from *user* 
      but actually keep them ready to be presented with full semantics 
      to the user when/if  needed? 
    * or that the full semantics are generated "on the fly" 
      just in the moment  they are needed?

# In the latter case, then we can't expect AT to *find* the label, I think. 
# But in the former case, then the AT would only need to check if it 
  had stored a hidden <label for=foo> somewhere - and use it if 
  it exists.


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