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Re: [text] HTML-A11Y Text, Tues 4 September 2012, 17:00 Z, (1PM Eastern), 60 min

From: Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 11:18:34 -0400
Message-Id: <E1T8uvp-0004kc-OZ@maggie.w3.org>
To: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>,public-html-a11y@w3.org, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Laura,

At 06:49 AM 9/4/2012 -0500, Laura Carlson wrote:
>Hi Judy and Janina,
>
>Standing regrets for the text team meeting, due to a recurring work
>conflict. But if things go well I may be able to call in for a few
>minutes.

Please try to join for at least part of the text subteam call so that 
we can coordinate more directly.

>It is unfortunate that you haven't made a call for consensus on the
>proposed new text for the longdesc change proposal yet.

I looked back at the A11Y Task Force minutes last week and think I 
see where the confusion may be coming from. There was discussion of 
your request for a call for consensus on the updated text
http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Talk:ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc
but it was not fully captured in the minutes. Discussion included that:
- there were no objections from meeting participants to the updated 
orientation text;
- since there were no actual changes to the position or 
implementation details of the change proposal, only the addition of 
text providing orientation to the extensive evidence linked from the 
change proposal, it would be unnecessary to do another full call for 
consensus on the updated text;
- however, it would be appropriate to request comments or suggestions 
to the orientation text that had been added. We will be doing that.

Regarding timing of when that request goes out, I had emailed you 
mentioning why that hadn't happened yet. The pending resolution of 
the formal objection on 204 may affect the clarification language 
that's currently set as a placeholder in the updated 30 change 
proposal text, regarding whether there is or is not some viable 
alternative to a longer description mechanism. This is relevant to 
how people consider the question of longdesc. We don't want to do 
multiple calls for comments. There are a few different possibilities 
with how timing on this may happen, which are easier to sort out by phone.

>If you would like me to consider switching out the current front page
>text [1] on the longdesc change proposal with the new text that
>sub-team wordsmithed [2]  please do a call for consensus on today's
>text call and then  with the full task force on Thursday. If you do
>not obtain  consensus, I'll just use the current text which does have
>consensus.
>
>Sam and Paul, if the task force does not reach a successful CFC on the
>proposed new text  [2], please use the current text [1] for the survey
>as it does have consensus.

Laura, please understand that the HTML Co-Chairs can't survey it 
right now, as they have been requested by the Director to wait for 
the resolution on the 204 formal objection, and they are respecting 
that request. The Director is aware of the situation with Issue 30 as well.

- Judy


>Thanks.
>
>Best Regards,
>Laura
>[1] Version that already has TF consensus:
>http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc
>[2] Newly Wordsmithed version:
>http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Talk:ChangeProposals/InstateLongdesc
>
>On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Judy Brewer <jbrewer@w3.org> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > A reminder follows on our meeting time, calling info, agenda, and IRC info,
> > for the Text Subteam meeting of the HTML-A11Y Task Force.
> >
> > I expect this to be a shorter meeting, mainly status updates, plus
> > link-context checking for the buggy alt guidance, and the missing
> > alternative texts for the spec itself.
> >
> > - Judy
> >
> > ** MEETING TIME:
> > HTML-A11Y Text Alternatives Sub-Group  WAI_PF(Text)
> > Tuesday 4 September, 17:00 UTC/Z for 60 Minutes
> > Check meeting time in your time zone using Fixed Time Clock at:
> > <http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20120828T13&p1=43>
> >  10 AM Pacific; 1 PM US Eastern; 6 PM London; 19:00 Paris (CET)
> >
> > ** TELECONFERENCE INFO:
> > Dial Zakim bridge using either regular phone, SIP, or Direct SIP:
> > - Regular phone: +1.617.761.6200 (in U.S.), CODE: 2119# (a11y#)
> > - SIP: zakim@voip.w3.org, CODE: 2119# (a11y#)
> > - Direct SIP: 002119@voip.w3.org (
> > http://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/Zakim-SIP )
> > - Additional VoIP tips: http://www.w3.org/2006/tools/wiki/Zakim-SIP-tips
> >
> > ** AGENDA:
> > agenda+ Agenda review; identify scribe.
> > agenda+ Issue 204, status of expedited formal objection
> >   ( 
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Aug/0256.html )
> > agenda+ Issue 30, longdesc, status of updated change proposal text
> > agenda+ Issue 31b, buggy alts and buggy alt guidance, confirming links and
> > evidence
> > agenda+ Issue 206, metagenerator exemption removed, status of remaining 206
> > explorations
> > agenda+ Confirm next meeting; identify next scribe; adjourn
> >
> > ** IRC INFO:
> > - IRC server: irc.w3.org, port: 6665, channel: #text.
> > - Zakim commands forIRC: 61# to mute; 60# to unMute; 41# to enter speaking
> > queue; 40# to exit speaking queue (the system acknowledges commands with a
> > three-tone confirmation).
> > - Mobile phone users especially should use the mute function if they don't
> > have a mute function on their phone, but the hand-raising 
> function is a good
> > idea for anyone not using IRC.
> > - for more on IRC setup, agenda robots, speaker queuing:
> > http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html and
> > http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/
> > - for a Web gateway to IRC you can use if your network 
> administrators forbid
> > IRC: http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
> > - for RRSAgent that captures and posts log with action items:
> > http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent
> > - for Zakim (maintains speaker and agenda queues):
> > http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot
> > - Gregory Rosmaita's scribing and participation tips:
> > http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet
> >
> > ** KEY URI's:
> > Last minutes: http://www.w3.org/2012/08/21-text-minutes.html (Aug 28 had
> > minimal minutes)
> > Background: http://www.w3.org/2011/04/14-html-a11y-minutes.html#item02
> > Task Force Wiki: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Main_Page
> > Consensus Procedures: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/consensus-procedures
> > Work Statement: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/html-task-force.html
> > Dial-in Instructions:
> > http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar.html#s_4691
>
>--
>Laura L. Carlson
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