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RE: Call for Consensus (CFC) to move forward the HTML5 Image Description Extension spec for publication (FPWD)

From: David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:58:29 -0500
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To: "'Steve Faulkner'" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
CC: "'HTML Accessibility Task Force'" <public-html-a11y@w3.org>
Hi Steve

 

Sure it's only a FPWD, but it has accessibility expert's names on it...
that's confusing to developers trying to follow WCAG...  Is anybody on our
team in favour of going to FPWD with an example that contradicts WCAG, when
we could just delete it? 

 

We're fighting to have bad ALT text advice removed from the HTML5 standard,
and then we are going to FPWD with a violating example ourselves... what
gives? To me, that's an embarrassment... Am I missing something?

 

Cheers

David MacDonald

 

CanAdapt Solutions Inc.

  Adapting the web to all users

            Including those with disabilities

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From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com] 
Sent: November-20-12 5:21 PM
To: David MacDonald
Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force
Subject: Re: Call for Consensus (CFC) to move forward the HTML5 Image
Description Extension spec for publication (FPWD)

 

Hi Dave, 

 

I agree that the example is problematic, and agree it should change, but as
the CFC states

 

" the document does not need not be complete, to meet all technical
requirements, or to have consensus on the contents."

 

and we are not even at the stage of it being a FPWD, so there is plenty of
time to work on such issues.

 

 

regards

 

SteveF

On 20 November 2012 21:29, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca> wrote:

I think we need to resolve the example that conflicts with WCAG ... simply
removing the third example would be sufficient. Then I would support it.

<img src="DecorativeImage" alt="" title="decorative image"
longdesc="http://example.com/descs#item3">

http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20120103/F39

"the image has no meaning and should be ignored by assistive technologies."

(Failure 39: WCAG Techniques).


Cheers
David MacDonald

CanAdapt Solutions Inc.
  Adapting the web to all users
            Including those with disabilities
www.Can-Adapt.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Kiss [mailto:jason@accessibleculture.org]
Sent: November-20-12 4:02 PM
To: Steve Faulkner
Cc: HTML Accessibility Task Force
Subject: Re: Call for Consensus (CFC) to move forward the HTML5 Image
Description Extension spec for publication (FPWD)

I support putting the document forward for publication as a first public
working draft (FPWD).



On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> We are calling for consensus on the HTML5 Image Description Extension
> specification [1]
>
>
>
> We have asked for and received feedback on the specification from task
> force members.
>
>
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> The question we are asking task force members:
>
>
>
> Is this specification ready to be put forward by the Task force to the
> HTML WG and the Protocols and Formats WG for consideration for
> publication as a first public working draft (FPWD)?
>
>
>
> Please note: As a Working Draft publication, the document does not
> need not be complete, to meet all technical requirements, or to have
> consensus on the contents.
>
>
>
> Silence will be taken to mean there is no objection, but positive
> responses are encouraged.
>
> If there are no objections by Thursday, November 29th (Close of
> business, or
> 23:59 Boston Time), this resolution will carry.
>
>
>
> Other considerations to note:
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>
>
> - As a First Public Working Draft, this publication will trigger
> patent policy review.
>
>
>
>
> [1]
> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/4893614e89f2/longdesc1/l
> ongdesc.html
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> On behalf of the task force chairs:
>
>
>
> Janina, Steve and Chaals
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> with regards
>
> Steve Faulkner
> Technical Director - TPG
>







 

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