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Re: HTML-A11Y Task Force Consensus RE Issue-204 ARIA-Hidden

From: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 07:13:45 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOavpvdWx5rJ6HK17oxGT2mRtSDBQymDMxGFdM-A1xXzsRON7w@mail.gmail.com>
To: HTML Accessibility Task Force <public-html-a11y@w3.org>, public-html@w3.org
Hi Janina and all,

Although I still worry that possessing special ARIA language (instead
of simply reinforcing the simple concept that "hidden always means
hidden" as the HTML5 spec currently does) adds complexity to the spec
and will cause some authors, especially novice authors, confusion, I
do not object to Cynthia's current stabilized ISSUE-204 proposal [1]
as it seems to bring HTML5 and ARIA in accord on this issue and
illuminates the fact that accessible name and description calculation
[WAI-ARIA] flattens the referenced elements to plain text, losing
interactivity and semantic structure.

I have stopped work on my Correct Hidden change proposal [1] in
deference to Cynthia's stabilized proposal [2].

Best Regards,
Laura

[1] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/CorrectHidden
[2] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/index.php?title=Correct_Hidden_Attribute_Section_v2&oldid=12821

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
> Colleagues:
>
> The HTML-A11Y Task Force has reached consensus (with one objection) in
> support of the Issue-204 Change Proposal at:
>
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Correct_Hidden_Attribute_Section_v2
>
> The Task Force Call for Consensus on this CP can be found at:
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Apr/0193.html
>
> Additional teleconference discussion of this CP and of TF consensus in
> support of this CP can be found at:
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Apr/0210.html
>
> The objection received can be found at:
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Apr/0200.html
>
> Janina Sajka
> Html-A11Y Task Force Co-Facilitator
>
>
>
> Janina Sajka writes:
>> Colleagues:
>>
>> On 29 March last the HTML-A11Y Task Force teleconference meeting
>> reached consensus as follows:
>>
>> RESOLUTION: The HTML-A11Y Task Force confirms that ARIA-DescribedAT will
>> not be ready for HTML 5 in HTML 5's currently published timeframe, and
>> therefore reaffirms its support of Laura's authored CP to reinstate
>> longdesc (Issue-30).
>>
>> The TF resolution, together with minutes of the discussion leading up to
>> it, is logged at:
>> http://www.w3.org/2012/03/29-html-a11y-minutes.html#item03
>>
>> As usual, if there is objection to this consensus position, please
>> respond by replying to this message no later than close of business,
>> Boston Time, on Monday 2 April.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Janina Sajka, Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
>>               sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>>
>> Chair, Open Accessibility     janina@a11y.org
>> Linux Foundation              http://a11y.org
>>
>> Chair, Protocols & Formats
>> Web Accessibility Initiative  http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
>> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
>                sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>
> Chair, Open Accessibility       janina@a11y.org
> Linux Foundation                http://a11y.org
>
> Chair, Protocols & Formats
> Web Accessibility Initiative    http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)



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Laura L. Carlson
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