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Re: aria-describedat

From: John Foliot <john@foliot.ca>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:58:46 -0400
Message-ID: <20120329155846.51873gkexy12shrq@wats.ca>
To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Cc: david bolter <david.bolter@gmail.com>, Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>, Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>, faulkner.steve@gmail.com, jbrewer@w3.org, George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>, laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com, mike@w3.org, public-html-a11y@w3.org, w3c-wai-pf@w3.org, W3C WAI-XTECH <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Quoting Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>:

> While a nice idea, @hasurl is a broad concept and doesn't state what
> you're supposed to find behind the url. I believe what we're after is
> something a bit more semantic - a link that takes a user to a Web page
> that contains (mainly textual) metadata

Not MetaData, real, human-readable textual data that describes in more  
detail what the *foo* is that it is attached to.

> about the element (and
> possibly its subelements)

... like, say, a video's poster image? <grin>

> to which the url is attached. As usual,
> finding a good name is very hard.

Actually, while determining a "good" name is important, it is less  
important than getting the user-agent behaviors behind the @duck_soup  
attribute we create.

> JAWS and NVDA seem determined to not want to introduce a new
> user-interaction for @longdesc (which I think is fair enough, seeing
> as it's an attribute that's only used for accessibility).

Minor correction here: JAWS *has* introduced a new interaction for  
@longdesc. When JAWS encounters the @longdesc attribute in an <img>,  
it announces the @alt text and then states: "Press ALT plus Enter for  
Long Description" - and then pauses waiting for the user to tab  
(continue) or hit enter (explore).

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